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  1. #11
    Player Dart's Avatar
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    Limlight
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    Carbuncle
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    DRK Lv 99
    outside berk+1 i have all the drk gear that taint does. My acc is not capped on some of the voidwatch nms and mobs deeper in dyna xarc/glacier, and a few (very few) nms that had ridiculous eva before abyssea. Close to cap but not capped on those.

    I just don't see how -50 enmity beats out capping or nearly capping acc on everything we fight nowadays.
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  2. #12
    Player Kagato's Avatar
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    "My personal preference is better than yours!"
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  3. #13
    Player Dart's Avatar
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    DRK Lv 99
    quiet you, or we'll force you into that rdm melee thread full of retarded goodliness. (yes i'm that mean)
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  4. #14
    Player Rezeak's Avatar
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    Rezeak
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    Ragnarok
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    DRK Lv 99
    I'll try and make the point as clearly as i can.

    Firstly i'm not trying to say Muted soul is the best choice or even better than diabolic eye.

    What i'm trying to say is that I never use Deye and therefore would rather have -50 Enmity even if i don't use it much if at all.

    I have alot of reasons why i feel Diabolic eye 5/5 isn't useful for me and i'll try to go over them as simply as i can.

    1. Is the HP loss. This will always be my main reason since most stuff were acc matters can deal alot of DMG and reguardless of One shot after an AoE DRK is not No.1 on a WHMs list so being able to last a little longer makes HP more important than a few % of DMG for me and my linkshell. (I feel this point is mute/reduced by any DRK with a Weapon that can allow the DRK to heal themselfs)

    2. 3 of 5 mins of acc if it was 5 of 5 mins of acc here would be times were I'd change food choices when i'd fight mobs in the 80-85% region of hit rate the problem is that if i am <85% where Deye is most effective i will always use food to capp my acc even if it means using Sushi.
    The other way of putting this is the only range i find Deye to be effective is on mobs where my hit rate it 85-90 which for me is so rare it's not worth thinking about.

    3. Thirdly and the point you missed. All the situation u mentioned i'm not even on DRK so your basically arguing to me that Muted souls is useless so merit Deye so u can look at on your merit list as SMN or SCH when ur fighting T3-4 VWNM. Maybe if i do start going as DRK i'll change my merits atm useless v useless so i'm choosing useless.
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    Main : 99 DRK
    Subs : 99 SMN COR SCH MELEEWHM
    Server : Ragnarök
    Relics : 95 Ragnarok and 95 Apoc
    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

  5. #15
    Player Jar's Avatar
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    Character
    Lugat
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    DRK Lv 99
    OMG people at the start said retarded atmas.

    Alpha and omega , RR , Apoc
    VV, RR, Apoc
    Plaugebringer( or scorpion queen <3 dart), RR, apoc

    NOTHING ELSE COMES CLOSE. EVER (unless need to avoid death than einherjar atma thingy.)
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  6. #16
    Player Taint2's Avatar
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    Dirtyfinger
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    Cerberus
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    SAM Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    I'll try and make the point as clearly as i can.

    Firstly i'm not trying to say Muted soul is the best choice or even better than diabolic eye.

    What i'm trying to say is that I never use Deye and therefore would rather have -50 Enmity even if i don't use it much if at all.

    I have alot of reasons why i feel Diabolic eye 5/5 isn't useful for me and i'll try to go over them as simply as i can.

    1. Is the HP loss. This will always be my main reason since most stuff were acc matters can deal alot of DMG and reguardless of One shot after an AoE DRK is not No.1 on a WHMs list so being able to last a little longer makes HP more important than a few % of DMG for me and my linkshell. (I feel this point is mute/reduced by any DRK with a Weapon that can allow the DRK to heal themselfs)

    2. 3 of 5 mins of acc if it was 5 of 5 mins of acc here would be times were I'd change food choices when i'd fight mobs in the 80-85% region of hit rate the problem is that if i am <85% where Deye is most effective i will always use food to capp my acc even if it means using Sushi.
    The other way of putting this is the only range i find Deye to be effective is on mobs where my hit rate it 85-90 which for me is so rare it's not worth thinking about.

    3. Thirdly and the point you missed. All the situation u mentioned i'm not even on DRK so your basically arguing to me that Muted souls is useless so merit Deye so u can look at on your merit list as SMN or SCH when ur fighting T3-4 VWNM. Maybe if i do start going as DRK i'll change my merits atm useless v useless so i'm choosing useless.
    If you popped Diabolic eye or dark seal one time in Jueno and one other player saw the animation and smiled it would be more useful then muted soul.
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  7. #17
    Player Taint2's Avatar
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    Dirtyfinger
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    SAM Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    I'll try and make the point as clearly as i can.

    Firstly i'm not trying to say Muted soul is the best choice or even better than diabolic eye.

    What i'm trying to say is that I never use Deye and therefore would rather have -50 Enmity even if i don't use it much if at all.

    I have alot of reasons why i feel Diabolic eye 5/5 isn't useful for me and i'll try to go over them as simply as i can.

    1. Is the HP loss. This will always be my main reason since most stuff were acc matters can deal alot of DMG and reguardless of One shot after an AoE DRK is not No.1 on a WHMs list so being able to last a little longer makes HP more important than a few % of DMG for me and my linkshell. (I feel this point is mute/reduced by any DRK with a Weapon that can allow the DRK to heal themselfs)

    2. 3 of 5 mins of acc if it was 5 of 5 mins of acc here would be times were I'd change food choices when i'd fight mobs in the 80-85% region of hit rate the problem is that if i am <85% where Deye is most effective i will always use food to capp my acc even if it means using Sushi.
    The other way of putting this is the only range i find Deye to be effective is on mobs where my hit rate it 85-90 which for me is so rare it's not worth thinking about.

    3. Thirdly and the point you missed. All the situation u mentioned i'm not even on DRK so your basically arguing to me that Muted souls is useless so merit Deye so u can look at on your merit list as SMN or SCH when ur fighting T3-4 VWNM. Maybe if i do start going as DRK i'll change my merits atm useless v useless so i'm choosing useless.
    If you popped Diabolic eye or dark seal one time in Jueno and one other player saw the animation and smiled it would be more useful then muted soul.
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  8. #18
    Player Rezeak's Avatar
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    Rezeak
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    Ragnarok
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    DRK Lv 99
    It would be cool if SE removed the HP down thing from Deye ^^
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    Main : 99 DRK
    Subs : 99 SMN COR SCH MELEEWHM
    Server : Ragnarök
    Relics : 95 Ragnarok and 95 Apoc
    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

  9. #19
    Player Taint's Avatar
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    Taint
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    Cerberus
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    RNG Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    It would be cool if SE removed the HP down thing from Deye ^^
    Amen to that
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    Cerberus - Armada
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    90masa
    85Kannagi

  10. #20
    Player Urteil's Avatar
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    Character
    Urteil
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    DRK Lv 99
    If you have muted soul merited, get out.


    If you have diabolic eye merited, I'm sure the day will come when you proudly delete those merits and dump then into Dark Seal, because you aren't wearing full perle anymore.
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