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    Player Mirage's Avatar
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    The UI in this game is pretty terrible, and I welcome every improvement to it, no matter how slight.

    The ability to customize your chat log size and placement is a good start, but I would love it if we could also get the ability to add several chat logs, with different filters for each. That way, I could keep battle related info in one, and chat in another.

    It would also be great if we could get an option to keep the macro bars visible without needing to keep alt/ctrl depressed, and also make the macro bars not appear on top of the status icons. Perhaps let us reconfigure the macro interface so that we could have one "default macro bar" that was accessible even without pressing alt or ctrl.

    For example, keys 0-9 would activate the macros that currently are activated by alt+0-9, and we'd press ctrl to get to the second macro line. I don't know about you guys, but sometimes when I change up my macros, it takes a while before I learn the new layout by heart. It would be a lot better if I could make at least one of the two macro bars always visible, and be able to activate them directly with a single keystroke instead of having to use two.

    Of course, because some people are really opposed to change, even for the better, there should probably an option to keep using the old setup.
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    Last edited by Mirage; 11-19-2011 at 02:02 AM.

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    I dunno, to me it makes sense that the chat servers are separated from zone servers. I have had odd disconnects where I get R0, mobs stop moving etc, but i still see LS and party chat continue as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    I dunno, to me it makes sense that the chat servers are separated from zone servers. I have had odd disconnects where I get R0, mobs stop moving etc, but i still see LS and party chat continue as usual.
    Well yeah, they aren't separate like that, as in, you already are able to message people that are on other areas obviously, but for some reason, the transition of a character to another area requires it to lose connection to the 'chat-server(s)'.

    Heck, it could be a memory limitation issue of the PS2, that they have to 're-set' it all when changing area. ^^;
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    Cooldown timers directly on macro buttons would be difficult, seeing as you can have multiple abilities/spells in one macro. If anything, we'd have to be given a new sort of macro tag that we could use to tell the game which timer we wanted to be displayed. Something like "/macrotimer Provoke"
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    Hmmm, that's a good point. Perhaps SE could modify the Macro Pallet so it doubles as an Action Bar? For example, they could make it so you can either make a button into a traditional macro with multiple lines, or you can set just one ability to that button but can't type any command lines into it. That would allow for cooldown timers on the buttons.
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    If anything, we should keep the macro panels, but have an action bar in addition that is directly activated by 0-9 without pressing alt or ctrl.

    I dunno though, I would rather have a macro bar that was directly activated by 0-9 with a single keystroke, because macros are much more flexible than a regular action bar.

    Instead, SE could make an UI addition that could show us ability/spell timers in real time.
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    Last edited by Mirage; 11-19-2011 at 09:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusionx View Post
    yes.. "too FFXIV" because no other MMO has a chat log that's smaller and tucked into the corner. Not a single one.
    What I find funny? If you so much as mention FFXI in the XIV forums they're ready to kill their first born, but if you mention something 'is too xiv' or 'resembles xiv' on XI boards no one goes into raged frenzy and try to vomit holy water on you for mentioning it, they just either correct you, like it, or hate it and move on lol.

    I personally like the current UI much more since it was something different from other MMOs, sure it may be outdated by new kids standards, but it was fresh and actually shows they put more thought into it than ganking x mmo's template and slapping on custom graphics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    I personally like the current UI much more since it was something different from other MMOs, sure it may be outdated by new kids standards, but it was fresh and actually shows they put more thought into it than ganking x mmo's template and slapping on custom graphics.
    You know why other MMOs share a standard interface? Because it works. FFXI has one of the worst interfaces in the entire MMO genre. Conforming to a good, solid standard is far better than creating a unique piece of crap. Deviating from the standard is only acceptable if what you're creating is better than the standard, and FFXI's UI simply isn't better. It's much worse.

    Though FFXI was originally released in 2002, and the current MMO UI standard wasn't really established until 2004, but still, SE could have put a lot more thought and effort into it than they did. Some things in the UI are just inexcusably bad.

    Honestly, I would say FFXI's UI is just as bad as FFXIV's UI, just in different ways. Thankfully, at least FFXIV is going to have its UI completely redone and brought up to modern standards. SE should get their UI team to give FFXI's UI the same kind of facelift that they're giving to FFXIV's UI with the coming Version 2.0.
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    Last edited by Rhianu; 11-20-2011 at 06:46 PM.

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    Just because something is different doesn't mean it's better.

    Other than that, your post doesn't really make sense. You talk about it being "outdated by new kids standards" and then at the same time how it "didn't copy other MMOs". So you're saying it's outdated compared to the MMOs that existed when FF11 was released, and at the same time new and original?? Or what exactly are you saying?
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    Last edited by Mirage; 11-20-2011 at 04:59 AM.

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    I don't want my chat window changed. Leave it the hell alone.
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