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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    and what is that supposed to do.. refute my post? In the end, you yourself are saying it is bugged when in fact it is working exactly as it was designed.
    I can't speak for the OP, but I don't think it's bugged, I think it's retardedly designed.

    And, btw... the title of the thread:



    It isn't a bug. Never was a bug. This is the original design.
    i'm not the OP, which is why I wrote:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    That's either seriously bugged, or a massively retarded design. I choose to give the devs the benefit of a doubt and say it's bugged.
    The ONLY way you have EVER been able to add more then 120 minutes total is through TE chests. You have never been able to extend your time beyond 120 total minutes with stones.
    I'm not talking about extending beyond 120 minutes, I'm talking about going down to 10 minutes then trying to add more stones gives you +0 minutes. That is retarded.

    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Abyssea

    Pay particularly close attention to thisw section, which is where I took my earlier quote from:

    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ab..._Visitant_Time
    Even if that were an official SE quote, which it isnt, it still wouldn't make the system any less retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    I can't speak for the OP, but I don't think it's bugged, I think it's retardedly designed.

    i'm not the OP, which is why I wrote:

    Originally Posted by Raksha
    That's either seriously bugged, or a massively retarded design. I choose to give the devs the benefit of a doubt and say it's bugged
    I'm not talking about extending beyond 120 minutes, I'm talking about going down to 10 minutes then trying to add more stones gives you +0 minutes. That is retarded.

    Even if that were an official SE quote, which it isnt, it still wouldn't make the system any less retarded.
    Ok, there you go again....missing the point. A bug implies an error in the programming. There IS NO ERROR -- that is how it is designed to function. IF you don't like the way they choose to mange your time, that is a disagreement with the design, but it is not an error in the coding--which is what you are saying when you say it is bugged, that there is a glitch in the code. Sauying it is retarded is completely different--that means you don't like the way they designed it to work, not that it is bugged...simply you don't like the way it works. But it is in fact behaving as it was coded to do.

    The fact that you can't add time past 120 minutes has been documented from day one. Even in the original release we were told you could not extend your stay beyond 120 minutes with stones, so even though those links weren't direct quotes from SE and written from players' experiences--we WERE told by SE there was a limit to how much time could be requested. It is even mentioned in SE's play guide hosted on their servers:

    Visitant Status
    The "visitant" status is essential for those wishing to journey within Abyssea. You will be permitted to remain there only while this status is active. Upon arrival in Abyssea, speak with a "Conflux Surveyor" NPC posted nearby to be granted visitant status in exchange for traverser stones. One stone will allow you a 30-minute stay (Earth time), with 120 minutes being the maximum permitted duration. Methods exist that allow players to extend their visitant duration.
    http://www.playonline.com/pcd/verup/...23/detail.html
    **note that went up 6/22/2010

    Shortly after it's release, it was well documented that if you tried to extend your time past 120 minutes of added time you would loose the excess minutes on your stones, since there is a cap to how much time you can add from any method other than time from chests. This is not new info, and is not a bug--it was intentionally designed that way.

    Many have not agreed with that. Many have lobbied (including myself) to having that cap extended in line with our abyssites (keep the cap inline with 4x our stones actual time, as it was initially 4X30, with 6 sojourns it should extend to 4x48). But that is a disagreement with the decision to implement the cap the way they did--it is not an error in the coding, and hence is not a "bug". It may be "buggered" in the sense that it's a bassackwards design, but it isn't "bugged" in the sense that it's a harmful glitch or exploit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    Ok, there you go again....missing the point. A bug implies an error in the programming. There IS NO ERROR -- that is how it is designed to function.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    I can't speak for the OP, but I don't think it's bugged, I think it's retardedly designed.
    IF you don't like the way they choose to mange your time, that is a disagreement with the design,
    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    I can't speak for the OP, but I don't think it's bugged, I think it's retardedly designed.
    but it is not an error in the coding--which is what you are saying when you say it is bugged, that there is a glitch in the code.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    I can't speak for the OP, but I don't think it's bugged, I think it's retardedly designed.
    Sauying it is retarded is completely different--that means you don't like the way they designed it to work, not that it is bugged...simply you don't like the way it works. But it is in fact behaving as it was coded to do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    I can't speak for the OP, but I don't think it's bugged, I think it's retardedly designed.
    Even in the original release we were told you could not extend your stay beyond 120 minutes with stones, so even though those links weren't direct quotes from SE and written from players' experiences--we WERE told by SE there was a limit to how much time could be requested. It is even mentioned in SE's play guide hosted on their servers:
    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    Even if that were an official SE quote,... it still wouldn't make the system any less retarded.
    Shortly after it's release, it was well documented that if you tried to extend your time past 120 minutes of added time you would loose the excess minutes on your stones,
    It was retarded back then too, things don't become less retarded the older they are.


    since there is a cap to how much time you can add from any method other than time from chests. This is not new info, and is not a bug--it was intentionally designed that way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    Yeah it's always been that way, but what we are saying is that it is RETARDED.

    Expending a stone to give you +0 minutes is retarded design. If i'm down to 10 minutes, and I want to add stones back up to 120 minutes, that menu should allow me to.

    As it is currently coded, that menu serves no purpose.
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