[dev1007] Voidwatch: Obtaining Spoils

[Karbuncle]

In the past, if something had a 1/8 drop rate and 18 people wanted it, you'd have an expected value of 8 x 18 = 144 kills to get everybody the drop. Roughly. With VW, it's still a 1/144 drop rate but it never gets better as other people get their items

This. This. This. THIS.

Do you see this Square? do you SEE why your idiotic "Well, Theres 18 people, So we lowered the drop rate Significantly to balance it!" Logic is so Horrible?

I want SE To do Voidwatch for about 1 month, Non-stop, and i want them to tell us how they feel when they join Pick up group after Pick up group, going 0/400+ On the Item they want like almost HALF of us here have, and have that one guy in the party who goes "HUR HUR MY THIRD BODY LOL I CANT EVEN USE IT, AND IM 3/12 NOW!" If they're not foaming at the mouth and want to jump into the computer, Find that guy, and rip out his throat and feed it to his family, they're not human.

Thats the feeling i get every time i see someone get a second/third body, or go 1/4 or less on it. I can't be happy for some joe who's put in 30 minutes of work and tripping bodies while Im sitting on the breaking point and swearing to god if i Get another Mantis Eye I'm going to do things I'll end up in a Mental hospital for.

So, My breakdown asde, Allow us to Give other people our drops, Just do it. Are you people so afraid of someone actually GETTING their drop and moving on to the next of 20 VWNM's they obviously will need, and the 10 more to come, and Legion, that you can't introduce a system that actually makes the player feel good instead of leaving a dirty taste in their mouth?

Every time i do Kaggen or Pil and open the box to find a Mantis Eye, or a Chakram, I swear i taste Blood and Anger swelling in my throat. This last week I've done kaggen an additional 20 Times, I got 13 Fudging Mantis Eyes out of all of those runs. In all my Total Kaggen runs, about a third of them dropped Mantis Eyes. I'm up to my eyeballs in mantis eyes.

Can't believe people aren't keeping up with the protests about the loot system. Or perhaps we've all had the life sapped out of our souls and just can't be bothered any more. :/

Most of us kinda hope the Upcoming Ticket System will not be as absolutely worthless and retarded as they've described to us, especially after all the uproar over how useless it will be.

[Tinderil]

Karbuncle, my sentiments exactly. I don't think SE ever play the game. While it works 'as intended', they don't seem to understand that having something completely random is very very bad. They just don't understand how frustrating the nature of totally random drops is. Your chance every time is 1/144 or whatever, which doesn't improve no matter how many times you do it, no matter if everyone in your alliance already has the item and it would in other loot cases be 'your turn' for it...

And the ticket system... just don't expect too much, it'll be too little, too late. To expect people to keep doing VW for tickets once they got their hard-earned bodies is insanity on SE's behalf. It's hard enough to get 1 to drop, let alone keep spamming it for more, for a ticket, which isn't even enough for a person to get the body, oh no, if you've bad luck, you'll need 5 tickets, just to make it 'fair'. /sigh

A suggestion, which may have been said before, would be to allow the R&EX items in your chest to be added to the treasure pool if you don't want them, so other can benefit at least, rather than wasting a drop. But only the R&EX, so the pool never fills up (since the rest can be traded/sold anyway).