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    Player Quetzacoatl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    In the past, if something had a 1/8 drop rate and 18 people wanted it, you'd have an expected value of 8 x 18 = 144 kills to get everybody the drop. Roughly. With VW, it's still a 1/144 drop rate but it never gets better as other people get their items.
    This. This. This. THIS.

    Do you see this Square? do you SEE why your idiotic "Well, Theres 18 people, So we lowered the drop rate Significantly to balance it!" Logic is so Horrible?

    I want SE To do Voidwatch for about 1 month, Non-stop, and i want them to tell us how they feel when they join Pick up group after Pick up group, going 0/400+ On the Item they want like almost HALF of us here have, and have that one guy in the party who goes "HUR HUR MY THIRD BODY LOL I CANT EVEN USE IT, AND IM 3/12 NOW!" If they're not foaming at the mouth and want to jump into the computer, Find that guy, and rip out his throat and feed it to his family, they're not human.

    Thats the feeling i get every time i see someone get a second/third body, or go 1/4 or less on it. I can't be happy for some joe who's put in 30 minutes of work and tripping bodies while Im sitting on the breaking point and swearing to god if i Get another Mantis Eye I'm going to do things I'll end up in a Mental hospital for.

    So, My breakdown asde, Allow us to Give other people our drops, Just do it. Are you people so afraid of someone actually GETTING their drop and moving on to the next of 20 VWNM's they obviously will need, and the 10 more to come, and Legion, that you can't introduce a system that actually makes the player feel good instead of leaving a dirty taste in their mouth?

    Every time i do Kaggen or Pil and open the box to find a Mantis Eye, or a Chakram, I swear i taste Blood and Anger swelling in my throat. This last week I've done kaggen an additional 20 Times, I got 13 Fudging Mantis Eyes out of all of those runs. In all my Total Kaggen runs, about a third of them dropped Mantis Eyes. I'm up to my eyeballs in mantis eyes.

    Most of us kinda hope the Upcoming Ticket System will not be as absolutely worthless and retarded as they've described to us, especially after all the uproar over how useless it will be.
    I really do have to share Karbuncle's sentiments here. If for any reason I have to do Voidwatch, it's either:

    A.) To obtain something that I need that I know I will never possess, but I do the runs anyway in spite of myself. I think a lot of players have this mindset, especially from those who have quit the game already...

    B.) I have to make gil from scrolls that I get from said runs, or Heavy Metal Plates to trade for gil or dynamis currency, since 1,500 Heavy Metal Plates is very gil inefficient in comparison to building a certain Relic or Mythic weapon. The only reason at this point to upgrade your empyrean weapon is if you have nothing better to do.

    For people doing Empyrean Weapon upgrades, SE really should consider having Heavy Metal Pouches for Kaggen, Pil and Akvan drops in place of single Heavy Metal Plates. The rest of the Jeuno Route 1 NM should drop single Heavy Metal Plates in the process. As I've noticed, there has been very little demand for Jeuno T3 VWNM. It'll be either for progression, Qilin runs, or Jeuno Route 2 T6 NMs. Maybe I just haven't been looking at shouts hard enough, but this is an observation I've made over the past few days on Leviathan.
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    Last edited by Quetzacoatl; 03-22-2012 at 02:27 PM.

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