[dev1007] Voidwatch: Obtaining Spoils

[Nynja]

its ok ur gettin ur 2k petrified log brah

[Creelo]

Anyone who's familiar with Voidwatch (that includes you, Cam) knows the treasure distribution system is shit. And the "rewards" that everyone receives in the end, even with full lights and the whole sha-bang, are almost always gonna be Logs, Ingots, Potions, and Beastcoins. This, coupled with the fact that fights are rather challenging for most groups and require a fair number of people, is greatly deterring people from even doing Voidwatch.

We know it'd be possible for the dev team to implement an "Add spoils to treasure pool" option, yet they won't because SE wants to drag us all out for as long as possible with this shit system. But of course, hypothetically, 3 years down the road SE will decide to "revise old content" and add this "Add spoils to treasure pool" option in VW.

It's bullshit. It's shady. And it's annoying. Please throw us a bone here. x.x We promise it wouldn't ruin Voidwatch.

[Darkvalkyr]

Voidwatch is a system that cripples LSes of friends playing with each other and helping each other out.

It works on pick up groups and slightly less on endgame heavy shells, but on shells that revolve on players helping each other and being friendly, this sort of drop system completely kills that 'help each other out' aspect.

[Yakamo]

I agree, VW is here to waste as much time as possible so that SE can fix other issues/add new things while keeping us busy.

What kills me is we're meant to spend cruor on these cells that supposedly increases the drop rate of items (at least the ruby ones), but with or without the cells, the drop rate is just as bad. I'm sure I'm not the only one to waste a ton of cruor on these things before now where I'm just saving them for the T3s and up, and hoping against hope it gets me something. Now, I have gotten some of the rarer pieces from VW, but I can't honestly tell if the cells had anything to do with it.

I've pretty much given up on Walk of Echoes, which has the same crappy loot system. At least VW is more fun and challenging, so it's still worth to do....but really, after you've seen the same person get his fifth Strendu Ring or Ganesha's Mala, and you're still getting those logs and ingots....let's just say no one feels "compensated" for anything.

[Defiledsickness]

well i can say that if you have an LS that does VW 2days a week, about 6-9 fights each day, you can obtain almost everything.

this is what my LS does and most of the members who have decent attendance seem to have gotten most of the rewards. i've only gotten about 3 items (1 i sold, another i muled, last i use rarely) but im not able to make every event.

it seems like they wanted a system as difficult as obtaining a relic or mythic weapon. but using /random instead of /hours. i do hate this system very much, but w/e.

[Treefiddy]

I totally agree with being able to put your own loot into the treasure pool. SE, you had the beginnings of a good idea by having everyone get their own individual drops from the chests, but you totally dropped the ball by not allowing us to put stuff we don't want into the treasure pool. Players getting the same ra/ex twice is just ridiculous. If you're going to allow that to happen then you need to allow that player to put it into the pool where someone else can benefit and not feel cheated yet again by a VW fight. The drop rates are terrible as it is. Using cells to boost quality of drops is a joke. You are destroying everyone's cruor supply by charging 3k cruor for ONE cell that doesn't help one bit on drops. That's 9k cruor per fight, and that's only to raise ONE color! I mean, we're spending enough cruor already upgrading atmacites. Give us a break here. I can see why people don't wanna do VW. It takes a lot of time and cruor to do and you have maybe a 1% chance of getting any of the rare drops. I can't even count have many Voidwroughts we've done, and only ONE radiant has dropped for someone. That's kind of ridiculous. Please adjust the drop system and drop rates SE. Also, can we get cheaper cells please? If you want VW to be successful then it has to be done.

[MDenham]

You are destroying everyone's cruor supply by charging 3k cruor for ONE cell that doesn't help one bit on drops. That's 9k cruor per fight, and that's only to raise ONE color! I mean, we're spending enough cruor already upgrading atmacites.

I see it hasn't occurred to you that this is kind of the point: plenty of people had tens of millions of cruor, and nothing to spend it on.

Voidwatch is intended to be a cruor sink, just like Dynamis, Limbus, and Einherjar used to be gil sinks.

[Atomic_Skull]

What kills me is we're meant to spend cruor on these cells that supposedly increases the drop rate of items

The conquest point price for cells needs to be severely reduced. 2000 CP per cell is ridiculous.

[Winrie]

Inb4 "the cells used to enhance lights for item drops in voidwatch were found to not be applying their effects as intended" or "item drop rates out of voidwatch chests were lower than intended" or "spectral alignment effects from players were not applying drop rate enhancements as intended"

[Alkimi]

As many people have mentioned the system is OK at best but the drop rate is beyond awful. Our linkshell has killed maybe 50 'final tier' voidwatch NMs now, all with capped or close to capped lights and we've mustered a grand total of zero body pieces.