[dev1007] Voidwatch: Obtaining Spoils

[Alhanelem]

I suppose its basically impossible to have your cake and eat it too.

This system does have the advantage of no fighting and drama over drops, it just sucks to get something you don't want that someone else does and not be able to give it to them.

What am I supposed to do when I obtain a Deluxe Animator from Akupara?

The deluxe animator is a false reward. It's inferior to the animator +1. Thus, PUP or no PUP, you're going to throw it away.

[Raksha]

I suppose its basically impossible to have your cake and eat it too.

They could remove the ra/ex tags, then you can have all the cake you can afford, and eat as much of it as you like.

[Luvbunny]

You know, this should have an easier fix. Make the item on chest drop where you have options to add to treasure poll. So you take what you want, and the rest put it on treasure pool. Oh yeah... no they will not and refuse to do this because... OMG that would mean there is no timesink for you... so typical SE. In the past they came up with many interesting ideas, but FAIL big time in implementation, then abandoned said ideas and never bother to adjust or fix it. Voidwatch seems to be destined to go down this path. To the developers, please, STOP adding new things if you never intend to fix it. DO FOCUS on tweaking, adjust and fix things you have now that is popular and working, and make sure it does get better.

[Lushipur]

an easy fix could be to add a voidwatch point system. then hav a npc that sell the good item for an insane amount of point.

so you keep the timesink but have all ppl happy too.

or add to the drop list some kind of spoil item that can be traded to a npc for an item of your choosing.

[Kristal]

There is a very easy way to fix the problem: remove the EX flag, but don't add it to the AH. This way, people can bazaar unusable stuff or trade it away.

Not that I know any PUP that actually wants the Deluxe Animator.. unless there is an undiscovered hidden effect that actually beats Animator +1. Few exceptions aside, Voidwatch rewards are barely a side-grade to lvl 75 gear, let alone 90...

[Nynja]

Is there any reason why SE went with this ludicrous drop system instead of a points system (assault / einherjar) for the rare/ex loot? If the intentions were to combat RMT, and people selling gear...I guess it worked, but it also prevented a lot of people from doing the event. I cant speak for everyone, but I have no intention of devoting time to something where the distribution of loot is determined by the games random number generator instead of the group. I'd probably rage quit and just up and delete my characters if I did a VW run and the war r/e item popped on my mule's acct (who doesnt have war lvled), and then on my main I got a strendu ring (who has, but never uses, mage jobs).

A system similar to Assault/Einherjar with a point system would equally combat RMT/item selling, and leave less people upset because everyone in their LS got a Deluxe Animator except for the resident pup.

[Erecia]

I understand why Voidwatch's loot system was designed how it is. That doesn't stop it from being awful in practice.

I don't have any other input other than to say that it basically doesn't matter what loot the devs add to Voidwatch: the loot distribution system alone (never mind the actual difficulty of battle) will ensure I stay far, far away.

[saevel]

The current system would be fine but ONLY if drop rates would be increased. Did the windy path twice the other day (had to swap people out for wins so every fight was fought twice), we capped lights on most fights, and the stuff that I got? Absolutely 0 items, all junk crafting stuff. One of our NIN's who had already received the HQ R/EX WAR/PLD/ect.. harness ... received it again and could do nothing about it. The only good item of the entire night, and it was thrown away.

The drop rates would be acceptable provided you could trade / exchange gear, otherwise they need to increase those drop rates so that you get ~something~. What it's really seeming like is you have a limited number of item slots and that their usually filled with crafting junk before the good stuff even has a chance to drop.

[Anucris]

Eh I like the system. Because If someone else wants it but it ends up in my casket I dont have to wait my turn so to speak. But it would be nice to be able to take said item or put in tp as in the op's case. Otherwise it's a great system. What this system really needs is more good stuff. King pops in lower tiers and hq king pops in the big boy fights would be cool since so many pple r having teouble with king drops.

[Thanotos]

and if you were able to trade(removing ex), add to treasure pool, etc.... everyone would complete the said content very quickly, would you really continue do play such a hassle of content after everyone got their drops? i would assume most wouldn't and i am sure VW loot system it to keep those subscription fees in tact, esp. since FFXIV is still non-chargable, they have pretty much dug themselves a huge hole, and their only saving grace right now is to keep FFXI alive, till they finish the still much needed overall on FFXIV, I would almost think it would be better to scrap that game altogether, its been almost a year (maybe over a year, don't remember the release after beta) and they have made absolutely no money off it rather than the initial cost, which if you take into account the amount of resources they have put into trying to fix the game, that overrides any amount of sales they have made thus far. anyways kinda off on another tangent.