Do Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean staves lack utility?

[Razushu]

You aren't making sense. Come back when you can make an intelligible statement.

I have never tried to duo Orthrus, so I don't really know how much curing capacity is really needed. Thankfully,Razushucovered that in an intelligent civil manner (And I thank him for that). I'm still thinking it would be possible, though probably much more difficult.

Thanks for the compliment.Forgive me for this:

Who knows perhaps in another time, another place we could've been friends.

I have always wanted to say that to someone.

Now back to the discussion at hand

[Alhanelem]

I wouldn't rule that out. So we have a disagreement about something. It's not the end of the world. I respect you for adressing things properly, without personal attacks or superlatives.

Why are you so willing to do anything to melee on SMN.

I'm not, and I'm sick of you and others painting me as If I do this all the time, every minute on SMN. Often I have a specific purpose for being on the job. If I'm absolutely needed for one specific reason, then I'm going to do the best I can in performing that purpose.

This is not an all the time thing. It is for when you want to focus on damage. You can still buff (and Ifrit is not a bad avatar to have out, the new enfire is pretty good and the Warcry effect is okay as well, though I wish it lasted a lot longer- The same sort of thing goes for ramuh, but since ifrit's enspell effect is better, ramuh is basically depreciated now)

Focusing on healing, damaging without any potential for hate disruption, and full-on support are all still all just as effective as always. Maximizing DD capability can sometimes be an ideal strategy. Sometimes it's not. I think this adds something to summoner (I will go along with the term "sidegrade", because it's reasonably appropriate). It's not a replacement for being able to do everything else that SMN can do, however.

[Razushu]

I wouldn't rule that out. So we have a disagreement about something. It's not the end of the world. I respect you for adressing things properly, without personal attacks or superlatives.

I just couldn't resist. The same here it's nice to get actual feedback rather than whatever it is that Dallas does. Also your sig is awesome

[Korpg]

I just couldn't resist. The same here it's nice to get actual feedback rather than whatever it is that Dallas does. Also your sig is awesome

Oh, Dallas just proclaims himself as God and expects you to worship him.

Personally, I would just ignore his rants.

[Alhanelem]

Oh, Dallas just proclaims himself as God and expects you to worship him.

Personally, I would just ignore his rants.

It really furstrates me to have anyone put me in the same group with him. I am passionate about what I do, but I don't look at anyone who does something different and call them gimp.

[Razushu]

It really furstrates me to have anyone put me in the same group with him. I am passionate about what I do, but I don't look at anyone who does something different and call them gimp.

Don't worry I don't think anyone puts you in the same group as him.

And I don't think anyones calling anyone gimp except the non-SMNs and Dallas, unless you're calling me gimp and it's whooshing me

[Dallas]

You're an idiot, because the point isn't to be the best. It's to be better than oneself could have been.

Clarification: The "could have beens," for all the FFXI impaired BG evacuees, are all you subpar SMN who only know how to use Alexander.

[Alhanelem]

And I don't think anyones calling anyone gimp except the non-SMNs and Dallas, unless you're calling me gimp and it's whooshing me

absolutely not.

Try to remmeber, I am only posing this as an alternate playstyle. Not the end-all best way to play the job. There are times when it can be better, and there are also plenty of not-so-much times.

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[Dallas]

Al, anyone can play gimp when the situation calls for gimp. Look at Byrth and GG. Do you think they can't figure out how to take their naked SMNs in and use Alex's 2hr?

[Razushu]

absolutely not.

Try to remmeber, I am only posing this as an alternate playstyle. Not the end-all best way to play the job. There are times when it can be better, and there are also plenty of not-so-much times.

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I see that, I can see the benefits of both styles(the melee side a little clearer now). They both have ups and downs and it seems that they both balance out fairly well when the circumstances allow.