Do Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean staves lack utility?

[Tamarsamar]

What's keeping the WHM from hasting everyone?

Hastega is still more efficient overall. Zero delay from player error (including an emergency need for Cures or -na spells), not to mention more bang for your MP cost (though you could argue that part away with Light Arts), and everybody happily receives their Haste crack at once, rather than waiting to be next-in-line.

[Dallas]

Just don't complain about not getting drops or kills as quickly as other people doing it the most effective way.

Christ, it's like you can't decide if you care about drops or not.

I hope you realize that the players who change jobs for every fight, instead of learning how to play one job well, have to collect 10 times the drops.

[Greatguardian]

I hope you realize that the players who change jobs for every fight, instead of learning how to play one job well, have to collect 10 times the drops.

I like how you made a false comparison between changing jobs and having to learn jobs.

ITT: Learning jobs is hard. Collecting drops efficiently is harder.

[Korpg]

huh? I'm not wanting all jobs to be "equal," I'm wanting them to be "balanced."

Except in a few special cases summoner is generally regarded as inferior as a whole. I am waiting for the day when summoners are respected, not LOL'd, for being summoners. You never see people going around talking, "Oh, Summoner? yeah, that's a good job. Let's invite him!" and that's the beef I have.

Only person who is making SMN into a loljob is Dallas. And that is with his attitude.

SMNs are respected now as is, without demanding them to be a top tier DD or healer or buffer or "they have to melee or gtfo" type of attitudes.

[Dallas]

I like how you made a false comparison between changing jobs and having to learn jobs.

ITT: Learning jobs is hard. Collecting drops efficiently is harder.

Who cares about efficient when I'm not the person who has to have a Ukon, and a competent DNC, WHM, and BRD to look good on a calculator? I need 1 job's gear, and every update I finish collecting those items in a matter of weeks.

This is why even on your pretty calculator, I deal 4 times the damage of the BP/release SMN. While BG cheerleaders spend all this time trying to prevent people from playing SMN, I have the free time to discover things like DG. We know you don't care about the job. The best thing you could do for SMN is get far away from it.

[Greatguardian]

You're oblivious. You don't deal 4 times the damage of a BP/release Summoner ever. You don't deal 2.5x the damage of a BP/release Summoner unless you're rocking Haste Samba, dual Marches, Haste, and Red Curry buns.

You don't even eat food, as far as I can tell from your posts. The damage you, personally, add is laughable.

[Alhanelem]

And we come right back down to personal respect.

Which has nothing to do with anything.

Not perosonal respect, job respect. It is the job, not the person, thatt is the target of LOLjob BS.

[Greatguardian]

Exactly. It is the job. Not the person. I'd ask how that affects you, but we'll just begin this whole crapfest all over again from the beginning.

Bottom line? The Relic staff, Mythic staves, and Empyrean staff have utility, just not nearly as much as other weapons of a comparable stature.

[Byrth]

There are 4 types of jobs: Ukon WAR, and crap.

I barely skimmed the previous two pages, but thought I'd pull this quote out. See, this is the kind of post that completely convinces me he's an elaborate troll.

[Korpg]

You're oblivious. You don't deal 4 times the damage of a BP/release Summoner ever. You don't deal 2.5x the damage of a BP/release Summoner unless you're rocking Haste Samba, dual Marches, Haste, and Red Curry buns.

You don't even eat food, as far as I can tell from your posts. The damage you, personally, add is laughable.

He wouldn't even do that much damage with all those buffs.

Because he wouldn't be in a party like that, he rather be by himself all the time, he said so too.

Edit: Oh shi, 1000th post on this thread.