Do Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean staves lack utility?

[Dallas]

Best SMN TP set?: http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/220183

Your WS set is irrelevant, because it does 0 damage anyway.

Add-on pants can be +7 accuracy, 3% Haste. You could have potentially constructed 80% of this set by reading the melee WHM thread on BG. Congratulations on taking the few minutes I take every update to make sure I stay at the top of my very limited selection of game.

Ninurta's is unrealistic, but the same haste can be achieved with Tern's set, at the expense of a few accuracy. I'm missing the Nash feet.

I will go a step further to explain this setup now kills SMN when soloing, thus breaking the job in the only activity that pet jobs thrive at. I've permanently replaced everything but Haste gear with -enmity gear until SE fixes avatars to generate more hate than a competent melee SMN generates. My campaign to fix SMN is no business of yours though, so keep walking.

You do have a WS set for it: Whatever has the most MP in any given slot. The WS mod is max MP. Higher max MP = more total MP gained.

Absolutely correct, but no one seems to care about mp here.

[Dallas]

Oh, and psst, Aesir also comes in Mantle form. There's also a thing known as Peacock Charm.

[Alhanelem]

Why on earth would you sub drg?

Well, at least it shows how versed you are in the art of melee

Edit: Beaten

I didn't say I would sub DRG. I was only pointing out the fact that you technically can cap haste.

Well, at least it shows how versed you are in the art of melee

It shows nothing. I'm well versed in the art of melee. and again, I didn't say I would use it (and my DRG is like level 10)

[Cream_Soda]

I didn't say I would sub DRG. I was only pointing out the fact that you technically can cap haste.

It shows nothing. I'm well versed in the art of melee. and again, I didn't say I would use it (and my DRG is like level 10)

If it's not something you'd do, what's the point in even mentioning it. I don't see why anyone would mention something that's nowhere near viable as their argument for "oh hey we can cap haste.... but it's under conditions you shouldn't be doing". Either straw manning or just like to argue over nothing, or possibly both.

There's also a thing known as Peacock Charm.

Since when did 4 acc become better than 5% critical hit rate?

[Byrth]

Add-on pants can be +7 accuracy, 3% Haste. You could have potentially constructed 80% of this set by reading the melee WHM thread on BG. Congratulations on taking the few minutes I take every update to make sure I stay at the top of my very limited selection of game.

Ninurta's is unrealistic, but the same haste can be achieved with Tern's set, at the expense of a few accuracy. I'm missing the Nash feet.

I will go a step further to explain this setup now kills SMN when soloing, thus breaking the job in the only activity that pet jobs thrive at. I've permanently replaced everything but Haste gear with -enmity gear until SE fixes avatars to generate more hate than a competent melee SMN generates. My campaign to fix SMN is no business of yours though, so keep walking.

I constructed 100% of the set by going to ffxiah and using Advanced Search with "SMN" specified. Haha, you probably wish that you had half the options WHM/NIN has for gear.

No one does consider MP here, because we're assuming (in your favor) that it's a non-issue. You're the job that relies on MP for damage, not your competitors.

Augmented ASA pants are an improvement. Peacock Charm is worse than Ziel Necklace, and they're both worse for DDing than Rancor Collar as long as you don't need the extra Acc (another assumption in your favor). I missed the latent on Acheron's Cape, but noted in my post after that that Aesir Mantle was your second best bet.

Regardless, those are some pretty freaking pitiful gear options.

[Razushu]

Add-on pants can be +7 accuracy, 3% Haste. You could have potentially constructed 80% of this set by reading the melee WHM thread on BG. Congratulations on taking the few minutes I take every update to make sure I stay at the top of my very limited selection of game.

Ninurta's is unrealistic, but the same haste can be achieved with Tern's set, at the expense of a few accuracy. I'm missing the Nash feet.

I will go a step further to explain this setup now kills SMN when soloing, thus breaking the job in the only activity that pet jobs thrive at. I've permanently replaced everything but Haste gear with -enmity gear until SE fixes avatars to generate more hate than a competent melee SMN generates. My campaign to fix SMN is no business of yours though, so keep walking.



Absolutely correct, but no one seems to care about mp here.

Maybe it kills your SMN, but anything that SMN solos shouldn't be melee'd or even have you in range. If you need one recast that would probably be the end of the fight

[Korpg]

I will go a step further to explain this setup now kills SMN when soloing, thus breaking the job in the only activity that pet jobs thrive at.

Good, now you admitted that your setup destroys the only thing SMN is good at. Now, lets see if you can realize what you don't add to the parties you are supposedly in.

[Dallas]

Since when did 4 acc become better than 5% critical hit rate?

Good question. Since when did you guys stop crying about being in AOE range with a mage? I simply assumed that you guys are too weak to handle +10% pdt. It's fair, it only took 1100 posts to even consider gearing for damage. NONE of you have capped staff skill it seems.

Good, now you admitted that your setup destroys the only thing SMN is good at. Now, lets see if you can realize what you don't add to the parties you are supposedly in.

I've broken the job at the top end. Of course, if you play at the bottom end, you will never see your pet lose hate to you. You know, I could do jack as well, and spend 3x as long killing stuff too. No telling what you need to waste your gear on.

[Dallas]

Hey BG, let's see if you'll do that for us: If SMN aren't meant to DD, heal, buff, and only should be used for 2-3 fights, show us what the best summoners should be wearing.

LOL

[Byrth]

NONE of you have capped staff skill it seems.

I do, just because I like blue skills. Your position is borderline retarded, which you seem to be realizing in the last few pages.