Tell me the better expression

[Didgist]

I just had to teach a japanese friend how to say "My pet needs to get the last hit for trial credit, please." today.

English people,"tugi ikimasu(次tugiいきますikimasu）" means something like next please, but get ready to be ignored until they give us access to ATOK or IME or something.

Net games are supposed to be chaotic, look at Lineage where you just PK people you don't agree with lol. Personally, i'm a nice player but I don't mind competition or people wanting to pop ??? multiple times. I usually ask, and if no response I go battle for the ???. Some people just refuse to be fair. 困難は徳の基, yeah?

[Trumpy]

i have never had a problem understanding a japanese player speakin in limited english somehow. What i usually have had issues with is the trying to communicate to the japanese thing. Usually when trying to speak to them I get no reply whatsoever. Id appreciate anything even if they say soemthing in japanese and its all jibberish to me over being completely ignored lol.

yesterday tho ran into this same situation where we were trying to pop a ??? nm and the other group was japanese. they wouldnt reply to us at all and kept poppin the nm ASAP. We asked to take turns and they ignored us still. So naturally we start competing for the ??? if that is how they are goin to be. we managed to get the next two nms and our mages started to die. the mages claimed the japanese group brought the regular mobs over to MPK them, but as i couldnt see that while focusing on fighting the nm and they were magic agroing mobs I cannot guarantee that was what happened. After a couple more nms the group finally replied to our take turns request with "(Do you speak japanese?)." Well no we don't but we tried various ways of using autotranslate and jsut plain english to communicate but nothing seemed to work. The japanese group got the three next nms and left.

So my question is what is the best way for english speakers to ask japanese for turns? We didnt use the phrase "take turn please?" but used a few very close to that. Like i said ive rarely had a problem understanding the japanese using limited english to communicate, its always been the other way around for me.

Its like how when you need someone to pull mobs for experience group and "Fisherman" works for most japanese but not all of them get that.

[Sakura317]

yesterday tho ran into this same situation where we were trying to pop a ??? nm and the other group was japanese. they wouldnt reply to us at all and kept poppin the nm ASAP. We asked to take turns and they ignored us still. So naturally we start competing for the ??? if that is how they are goin to be. we managed to get the next two nms and our mages started to die. the mages claimed the japanese group brought the regular mobs over to MPK them, but as i couldnt see that while focusing on fighting the nm and they were magic agroing mobs I cannot guarantee that was what happened. After a couple more nms the group finally replied to our take turns request with "(Do you speak japanese?)." Well no we don't but we tried various ways of using autotranslate and jsut plain english to communicate but nothing seemed to work. The japanese group got the three next nms and left.

I applozige you instead of them.
Don't dislike Japanese, please.

I don't think "Take turn, please" or related phrase can be understand to usual Japanese people.
I also didn't know how to express it for a long time, though I translate complicated IT documents from Japanese to English and from English to Japanese in my work.
(Most Japanese can understand the word "take", "turn" and "please", but we know the word "turn" as "change in direction, not as "rotation of order".)

And in your situation, I think the Jaanese party understood that your party also wanted to pop NM.

But they couldn't understand you want to fight for NM by turns, so they are afraid that once they gave over ??? to "Gaijin" party, the selfsh Gaijin occupied ??? all the time.

And I think they didn't know how to express their thinking, not only "take turn, please", but also "how many times are you planning to fight?" or "we only remain 3 fights, so could you wait for your finish?".

So they pretend that they can not understand English at all, and finished them first.

Or just simply, they didn't want to take by turn, they wanted to finish themselves at first. (These kind of people exist not only in Japan, but in all over world.)

So my question is what is the best way for english speakers to ask japanese for turns? We didnt use the phrase "take turn please?" but used a few very close to that. Like i said ive rarely had a problem understanding the japanese using limited english to communicate, its always been the other way around for me.

"Kougo ni yarimasenka?" is one answer.
or "Kougo onegaishimasu"
Kougo means "by turn"
yarimasenka means question of "take".
or "onegaishimasu" means "please".

[Glamdring]

problem with learning most languages is the opportunity for conversational practice. "Use it or lose it" is a very real issue with languages. For americans, we don't get the opportunity to use languages we do study to obtain fluency in most cases. But English is thought by many to be the international language of commerce, meaning it is used in many places around the world. That and the British empire made it very widespread. There may be an arrogance factor involved, too; many americans seem to feel they are too important to learn a language (for the redneck/rascist types that generally includes their own native tongue) and expect that others will "learn English if they want our money". Sad...