Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
I'll admit, you lost me. Are we talking only avatars, or comparing pet jobs with avatars?

If it were only avatars, I'd kindly disagree that it is rare to call "50% PDT" a melee trait, even if it helps. If you were saying we have 50% PDT and BST/PUP/DRG have melee traits, then I'm not sure what it means except that is how it is.
I'm talking about avatars as we are a pet job solely dependant on our pets for real contribution.

I'm refering to the frontline survivabilty part of my "They have job traits/abilities for melee, front line survivablity as well as dumping their emnity on thier pet" of my point. -50% PDT is a trait that enables them to stay alive front line for a longer time. This is also 1/3 of my point if you compare a Summoner to a BST/PUP/DRG(player not the pet) they match 3/3.

1)The high level weapon skills from their given class natively
BST/DRG/PUP all get this.
Avatars get Blood Pacts which are pretty much equivalent to WS
SMN stops getting BPs at Spirit Taker

2)They have Higher melee stats
BST/DRG/PUP all get decent melee stats
Avatar performs well naked(does need some way to boost DoT/stats)
SMN is lowest tier in all but DEX here(don't get too excited though we're second lowest DEX in game)


3)They have job traits/abilities for melee, front line survivablity as well as dumping their emnity on thier pet
BST/DRG/PUP all get various traits/abilities for these 3 criteria i.e Snarl(dumping their emnity on thier pet), Martial arts(melee), evasion bonus(frontline survivability)
SMN gets none
Avatar has -50% PDT(frontline survivability)