Why is Summoner the most ignored, misunderstood and broken job?

[Razushu]

I see it enough on even non-tarus to make me wanna stay permenantly out of range if it can be avoided. Even if it doesn't one shot you it''l probably put you in orange or maybe red health which is still pretty bad

[Dallas]

I don't think as a SMN i've ever been 1 shotted by an AoE. That seems like a problem for Tarus.

Earthen Armor makes it even less likely that a Taru would be 1-shot. People forget how easy it is to know what you are fighting before you fight it.

[Razushu]

Still can't beat staying out of range for safety and it frees up your Blood Pact Ward timer for something more useful to the party than Earthen Armor and even if the party needs it chances are the SMN should probably be no where near the frontline because if the 2k+ HP WAR is in danger of losing massive chunks of life then a SMN could still get owned if unlucky

[Arciel]

I don't think as a SMN i've ever been 1 shotted by an AoE. That seems like a problem for Tarus.

I keep up Stoneskin/Blink/etc at all times when i play, If i get hurt too bad I'll move back.

Particularly dangerous mobs not considered (Ultimas BOOM, etc)

You should try some of the new NMs out there.. they''re lovely.
Granted its kinda obvious to stay away from them, its when they don't allow you to do so that it hurts really badly, and this has nothing to do with meleeing really, even BPing puts you at risk sometimes.

of course, the likelihood of being 1 shotted by AoEs is pretty low if you aren't fighting anything remotely challenging, as is probably the case for Dallas anyway.

[Dallas]

If a WAR can't melee it either, it makes for a really useless argument.

[Fyreus]

Because of how pet attack works for avatars the solution isn't to keep tossing those stats at smn razushu but to add higher base stats.

Fenrir for example has a bit above 450att but hits IT like a girl, right? If they would give us gear like haste, Pet: +20str or 30dmg, and bigger mab numbers than 2 or 1 on random gear parts then our avatars would be able to do something. Until SE says 'Ok, all these blm avatars with melee BPs need an overhaul' nothing will happen.

The problem in the past was that SE had smn as a hate free job so there was a trade off. Now that pally has a higher hate cap, blm has enmity douse, and other DDs gain tp faster and hit harder and support classes has access to spells that we can't even get a hold of bar 'standard' buffs we remain in the dust until they decide to give avatars more hp/stats (i feel like my pets have less hp than i do) or change the BP timer to come in line with today's battle standards.

There's no way they're scared we'd run out of mp lol... also please SE... take smn damage seriously. AF32+2 body should have 30% damage increase instead of a small number since we don't all sit in abyssea all day.

[Dallas]

AF3+2 body should have 30% damage increase instead of a small number since we don't all sit in abyssea all day.

I just trioed Nyzul with THF, RDM (healer), SMN. There's nothing wrong with our damage outside of Abyssea.

[Cahlum]

Inferno howl is a really nice BP ward 44 dmg enfire outside abyssea is amazing to jobs like MNK especially when using hundred fists

[Razushu]

If a WAR can't melee it either, it makes for a really useless argument.

I never said a 2k+ HP WAR couldn't melee I said if something with that kind of HP can take enough damage to make Earthen armor a necessity or even jsut a good idea what does a <1k HP SMN doing whacking the mob with a stick

[Karbuncle]

I don't think anyone but Galkas have 2k+ HP Outside of Abyssea, and even then just the MNKs, and maybe PLDs or WARs.

But i understand what you're saying. Also, on SMN Melee debate, I think Dallas is probably smart enough to know what NMs to stand back on, and what NMs to melee on.

Also that there are probably few mobs that would risk 1-shotting a SMN with Stoneskin and Earthern Armor up.

Also @ Cahlum: Yes, Ifrits new BP is really good, I just wish there was a way to enhance its Magic Accuracy .

Edit: Does adding Skill past cap increase Magic Accuracy of Added Effects on BP:Wards?