Can we get a different negative effect from Retaliation please(/hates moving slow ><)

[kingfury]

I understand that it's technically a "stance-like" ability and all that, but can we please swap the "decreased movement speed" with something else? I personally hate taking Retaliation off just to efficiently move to the next near by enemy or area ><;

Perhaps something we won't miss like "Reduces parrying activation rate" or "Reduces VIT"? I just want my movement speed back without having to take off Retaliation! ^^

Thanks for listening Devs /salute

[Leonlionheart]

I don't like moving slow, but I suck it up.

I'd rather substitute something truly useless instead of losing out on something that might get me killed.

[kingfury]

I don't like moving slow, but I suck it up.

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Yeah, but rather than sucking it up, which is what we all have to do currently lol, how about a nice swap!

I'd rather substitute something truly useless instead of losing out on something that might get me killed.

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Agreed... but... you don't depend on Parrying for survival in battle do you? o.o

[Kyrial]

Yeah, parrying rate I wouldn't mind... but VIT I sure would.

[Leonlionheart]

trade off: 5% parrying (which is floor, and I doubt WAR can get higher than that) VS retaliation hits for 1000

...

that's fair

[kingfury]

Yeah, parrying rate I wouldn't mind... but VIT I sure would.

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^^ I just tossed VIT out there, it could be anything else we wouldn't miss. But really, what WAR is lacking in the VIT department enough so that they would miss a light reduction of say 15-20pts? If you're worried about hits, -PDT is the way to go yeah?

[hiko]

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Yeah, but rather than sucking it up, which is what we all have to do currently lol, how about a nice swap!


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Agreed... but... you don't depend on Parrying for survival in battle do you? o.o

reducing parrying rate would buff retaliate (parry less= get hit more= retaliate more)

[kingfury]

True, but in terms of "beneficial" stuff, not getting hit from a successful parry is a good thing. Getting hit more, even if it in-directly helps Retaliation proc more, is still sorta on the bad list yeah? Most still wouldn't notice it enough to say, "Hey, I'm retaliating more all of a sudden" since parry only procs when pixy children are born... on sunny days... with Wind weather only.

At any rate, I wouldn't mind anything else, so long as it's not movement speed ><

Then again... why do we need a negative side to this JA at all?

[Leonlionheart]

Because its probably the best JA we have...

Seriously, without it I personally think that DRG would overtake the spot of top DD.

[kingfury]

But they get a Wyvern... o.o With magic spit and so on...

They would have to share some of WARs smexy JA's to reach that spot. Warrior's Charge, Blood Rage, Mighty Strikes, etc..