Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
No I did not miss the point.

Red Mage nukes do not suck. They do excellent damage and can kill things.

The fact Black Mages have better nukes and can do more damage does not change this fact. It simply means they are better at nuking than Red Mages are. That doens't mean however that Red Mages suck at it. One does not equal the other.
Here's what Excellent means:
ex·cel·lent   [ek-suh-luhnt] Show IPA
adjective
1.
possessing outstanding quality or superior merit; remarkably good.
2.
Archaic . extraordinary; superior.

In other words when BLM is available by definitions a RDM's nukes can't be "Excellent".