[dev1017] PLD proposed adjustments

[Zagen]

By your so called standards all nukes on the game suck but black mages. All heals on the game suck except white mages. I suppose all swords suck except almace and excaliber according to you. All shields suck cept Ochain and Aegis. There must be a lot of suckage in your life, since you see everything that isnt' the absolute best as the suck. It's a very limited and flawed way of looking at things.

You missed the point. Maybe this will make more sense to you. A BLM's IV nukes will do more damage than a RDM's because of the additional MAB and better nuke gear. Those factors make a RDM's nukes suck when compared to a BLM's nukes. When you add in higher tier version then it makes it much more obvious a RDM sucks as a nuker when a BLM is an alternative.

[Dale]

You missed the point. Maybe this will make more sense to you. A BLM's IV nukes will do more damage than a RDM's because of the additional MAB and better nuke gear. Those factors make a RDM's nukes suck when compared to a BLM's nukes. When you add in higher tier version then it makes it much more obvious a RDM sucks as a nuker when a BLM is an alternative.

No I did not miss the point.

Red Mage nukes do not suck. They do excellent damage and can kill things.

The fact Black Mages have better nukes and can do more damage does not change this fact. It simply means they are better at nuking than Red Mages are. That doens't mean however that Red Mages suck at it. One does not equal the other.

[Zagen]

No I did not miss the point.

Red Mage nukes do not suck. They do excellent damage and can kill things.

The fact Black Mages have better nukes and can do more damage does not change this fact. It simply means they are better at nuking than Red Mages are. That doens't mean however that Red Mages suck at it. One does not equal the other.

Here's what Excellent means:
ex·cel·lent   [ek-suh-luhnt] Show IPA
adjective
1.
possessing outstanding quality or superior merit; remarkably good.
2.
Archaic . extraordinary; superior.

In other words when BLM is available by definitions a RDM's nukes can't be "Excellent".

[Dale]

Here's what Excellent means:
ex·cel·lent   [ek-suh-luhnt] Show IPA
adjective
1.
possessing outstanding quality or superior merit; remarkably good.
2.
Archaic . extraordinary; superior.

In other words when BLM is available by definitions a RDM's nukes can't be "Excellent".

Nope.

Even when i'm in a group with a black mage, I still consider my Red Mage nukes quite effective and enjoy using them. As stated before, just because someone can do something better than you doens't mean you automatically suck and are not worth using. Reading defintions out of dictionary doens't change this either.