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    Player Linh's Avatar
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    Goad - New Job Ability Suggestion

    Goad

    Recast: 30 seconds

    Effect Duration: 15 seconds

    Special Notes:

    When a monster is first Goaded, the effect of Goad cannot be placed on it again until 30 seconds have passed

    Description:

    Forces a monster to attack you for 15 seconds regardless of Enmity. The monster gains a +50% damage resistance against the Paladin but suffers a -10% damage resistance from all other sources
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    90 MNK. 90 BLM. 90 COR. 90 WAR.

    All POST-Abyssea LEECHED and proud of it.

    Cept MNK (Got up to 41 in 2009). All that time wasted camping Retaliators....

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    Paladin gains a 50% damage increase, and the monster suffers a -10% damage resistance from all sources.
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    the hate problem is already because pld cant deal dmg. reducing dmg further would only push you further off the hate list.

    more defensive abilities allowing you to use better DD atmas would help pld's in abyssea the most. maybe a samba-type move decreasing hate for other members attacking.
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    Player Linh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defiledsickness View Post
    the hate problem is already because pld cant deal dmg. reducing dmg further would only push you further off the hate list...
    There is no hate problem if the monster is forced to attack the PLD for 15 seconds regardless of enmity
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    90 MNK. 90 BLM. 90 COR. 90 WAR.

    All POST-Abyssea LEECHED and proud of it.

    Cept MNK (Got up to 41 in 2009). All that time wasted camping Retaliators....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linh View Post
    There is no hate problem if the monster is forced to attack the PLD for 15 seconds regardless of enmity
    There are other jobs that can tank besides pld, giving pld an ability like this would create magor hate issues for other tank jobs since all jobs can reach the hate cap, plds hate issues only affect them inside abyssea when we're at 99 and all content is outside abyssea they won't have such an issue. Monks definatly won't be the best choice outside abyssea for linkshells only reason they ever tanked before abyssea was due to how salvage works, leaving only three jobs that can tank effectivaly outside being Blue Mage, Paladin, and Ninja.
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    Player Linh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habiki View Post
    There are other jobs that can tank besides pld, giving pld an ability like this would create magor hate issues for other tank jobs since all jobs can reach the hate cap...
    But this would allow the tanks for tank, and the DD's to DD.
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    90 MNK. 90 BLM. 90 COR. 90 WAR.

    All POST-Abyssea LEECHED and proud of it.

    Cept MNK (Got up to 41 in 2009). All that time wasted camping Retaliators....

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    Player Dale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linh View Post
    Goad

    Recast: 30 seconds

    Effect Duration: 15 seconds

    Special Notes:

    When a monster is first Goaded, the effect of Goad cannot be placed on it again until 30 seconds have passed

    Description:

    Forces a monster to attack you for 15 seconds regardless of Enmity. The monster gains a +50% damage resistance against the Paladin but suffers a -10% damage resistance from all other sources
    Sounds way overpowered to me. Letting the Paladin easily hold threat 50% of the time just by spamming one more every 30 seconds is a little much.

    Maybe giving paladin a Flash2 or something liek taht would be a better route to go.
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    Last edited by Dale; 07-02-2011 at 08:24 AM.

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    FF13 has some interesting ideas for a Paladin update:

    *Challenge--I could see S-E giving Paladins this type of ability, but it needs to be a superior alternative to Provoke (i.e. greater enmity generation AND not subject to loss) and exclusive to the main job.

    *Mediguard--A Regen-type JA would be great if it also offset enmity loss while in effect.

    *Vendetta--A countering JA (or, better still, JT) would be quite valuable to Paladins if the damage is right.
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