Parser / Dps Meter!

[Romanova]

I'm not saying FFXI needs to be more like WoW (It really doesn't, I like it being FFXI >)

But if there is a good idea floating out there from another game, rather it be the UI, or otherwise, It should be considered. I don't care if it was from Barbies Princess adventures, If the Idea was sound it should be looked into. Where it originated does not matter.

Taking a % of that demographic wouldn't be bad, and honestly the menus/GUI is much better in WoW in the first place, by a longshot.

didn't read all pages so I hope someone mentioned this already, but the WoW default UI is butt. Only thing that makes it good is them allowing outside sources to alter it. Most of the "useful and nice" UI stuff is all done through addons.

Also WoW's default UI doesn't have a parser.

(note: I love WoW, but reality is reality, and it really just doesn't apply in this case).

[Leonlionheart]

didn't read all pages so I hope someone mentioned this already, but the WoW default UI is butt. Only thing that makes it good is them allowing outside sources to alter it. Most of the "useful and nice" UI stuff is all done through addons.

Also WoW's default UI doesn't have a parser.

(note: I love WoW, but reality is reality, and it really just doesn't apply in this case).

I don't see how it's bad, and I use it's base version.

Even if you change my mind that it is bad, you can't possibly argue that it's worse than FFXI. If the only argument you have is 'looks,' we're on two separate pages because aesthetics can always be changed since they are client side and not server side. (Guys, everything in the entire client can be edited and changed- with next to no way to find out that you've done it. You could be playing hello kitty island on FFXI servers in terms of graphics if you REALLY wanted to.) I'm talking about actual information displayed, in which case WoW has done it correctly, and FFXI players are playing in the dark.

I mean, without testing and the fact that it's apparent, it's safe to say that we would all think that Accuracy and Haste do absolutely nothing because until you start using them, it looks like they do nothing. We all assume they do increase hit rate, and speed of attacks, but if you're coming in to FFXI with no previous knowledge of FF games or any RPG for that matter these things mean absolutely nothing to you. The fact that changes of such elementary stats are not displayed is a reason that FFXI loses so many new players so quickly. On the other hand you can go in to WoW with it being your first experience out of your mother's womb and start to understand what your gear does for you.

[Romanova]

I don't see how it's bad, and I use it's base version.

Even if you change my mind that it is bad, you can't possibly argue that it's worse than FFXI. If the only argument you have is 'looks,' we're on two separate pages because aesthetics can always be changed since they are client side and not server side. (Guys, everything in the entire client can be edited and changed- with next to no way to find out that you've done it. You could be playing hello kitty island on FFXI servers in terms of graphics if you REALLY wanted to.) I'm talking about actual information displayed, in which case WoW has done it correctly, and FFXI players are playing in the dark.

I actually like ffxi's base UI but I agree that's all opinion. My point alone is that the default UI in wow really has nothing to do with the thread because this thread is about having an ingame parser, but wow doesn't even have that so it really shouldn't have been mentioned.

I mean, without testing and the fact that it's apparent, it's safe to say that we would all think that Accuracy and Haste do absolutely nothing because until you start using them, it looks like they do nothing. We all assume they do increase hit rate, and speed of attacks, but if you're coming in to FFXI with no previous knowledge of FF games or any RPG for that matter these things mean absolutely nothing to you. The fact that changes of such elementary stats are not displayed is a reason that FFXI loses so many new players so quickly. On the other hand you can go in to WoW with it being your first experience out of your mother's womb and start to understand what your gear does for you.

that doesn't really have anything to do with the thread though. I am not arguing against not seeing stats, If the thread was about being able to see haste as a stat, I have zero issue with that. A parser is not the same as showing previously hidden stats.

[Leonlionheart]

Well I did diverge from the topic, but an in-game parser is ridiculous.

I wouldn't mind showing off my e-peen, but then everyone would just go play WAR and make Ukons instead of everything else.

Edit: After the first 3 or 4 posts the topic had pretty much changed. This topic even got admin/mod/whatever attention about changing the UI to display more stats. As far as I'm concerned the topic is about the UI now, and not a parser.

[Jar]

I actually like ffxi's base UI but I agree that's all opinion. My point alone is that the default UI in wow really has nothing to do with the thread because this thread is about having an ingame parser, but wow doesn't even have that so it really shouldn't have been mentioned.



that doesn't really have anything to do with the thread though. I am not arguing against not seeing stats, If the thread was about being able to see haste as a stat, I have zero issue with that. A parser is not the same as showing previously hidden stats.

I ARE CAN HAVE PARSER

[Ihnako]

www.google.com
ffxi parser
you can have this
topic end

[Catsby]

www.google.com
ffxi parser
you can have this
topic end

A bandaid for a knife wound. FFXI's UIs are terrible and need serious consideration.

[Raksha]

I wouldn't mind showing off my e-peen, but then everyone would just go play WAR and make Ukons instead of everything else.

Hell this is good enough reason to add a parser if you ask me.

[Catsby]

Development could use the parsers to their own advantage. They could record all this information and realize where the tremendous imbalances are.

[Aleste]

I probably wouldn't bother with an official parser if they decided to release one. Kparser seems to work moderately well and is handy in discerning what changes I require to change my personal build.

Although, don't forget that there are far too many variables that'll throw off a parse... and as of such should be taken with a grain of salt.

I imagine the people who would parse to figure out minute changes in gear probably already have one, in which case, where is the point?