Chocobo racing, does everything cheat in this game?

[Urat]

My bird is SSS-SSS-C-F with Canter+Gallop, and he occasionally beats the super birds about 30% of the time. Super race he generally comes second.

1K race is VERY VERY cheap and you can make LOTS of money with chocobo racing free runs if you know what you're going.

If the races are:
Easy - Easy - Super - Super - Super - Tri-Super, I average
5 - 5 - 3 - 5 - 3 - 1

Thats 22 chocobucks in 6 races, for 6K. Thats a really good price, as you can double your money with it.

But I'm not going to tell you how and let you figure it out on your own. #1: SE might very well gimp this method on a whim, which'd suck, and #2: its not that hard to figure out, takes like 5 mins on wiki.

[Kavik]

I believe i am currently using you're guide on wiki actually, i was wondering though, what care plan does one use to raise the intelligence of ones bird without gimping it's str/endurance too much? i have found no clear thoughts on it.

[Zatias]

I believe i am currently using you're guide on wiki actually, i was wondering though, what care plan does one use to raise the intelligence of ones bird without gimping it's str/endurance too much? i have found no clear thoughts on it.

Sadly the only way to raise these stats is to do just that. Or abuse the chocobuck training program. Though expensive, it does not lower any other stats (unless completely capped out)

My prize-winning bird (over 50 times Crystal Stakes 1st prize winner and full clear of story mode races) has STR-SS/END-S/DSC-B/RCP-D. I raised her off mental plans early in her life until she learned Gallop and Canter. I then changed the plans to physical increase, by this time she had A DSC and C RCP. Through the work of care plans, carrots, and chocobuck "training", she ended as STR-SS/END-S/DSC-B/RCP-D. (chart here:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Us...cer_Strategies)

I'm beginning to babble and am over-complicating things, so if you want to know more detailed strategies just look at my guide on wiki, on Chocobo Raising.

Linky:http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Us...hocobo_Raising

And a bit back on topic, my chocobo can "randomally" win against the super-chocobos WITHOUT an item, it just takes a bit of luck. Those birds were made to leave you in their dust.

[Kavik]

I have nearly 400 chocobucks saved up for when my chick hits adulthood (i'm racing what should have been my star racer but since i had to take a 3 mo break he turned out largely useless SS str/end poor/poor canter and gallop, he wins C4 races occasionally for my new bird lol) , i plan to get SS on Str/end and hopefully at least B Discernment and have canter and gallop on the new bird (i bred gallop into it), both it's parents had first class str/endurance. So i'm hoping this is going to be my star racer finally, currently at day 27 her str/endurance are at Average and are now flying up, i'm using 3 different raising guides so hopefully the combination will work to my advantage.

Also, the pattern for races, if you start when you face all 3 'super' birds is this:

3x Super - 1x super* (meteor brian) - 1x super* (invincible leg) - 1x super* (meteor brian) -1x super (invincible leg) - 1x super (star onion) - 0 super - 0 super and then it repeats itself

which will net you (if your like me) and will cost you: 1 buck(100 gil), 3 bucks(150 gil) 3 bucks(200gil) 3 bucks(300 gil) 3 bucks (400 gil) 3 bucks (600 gil) 5 bucks(800 gil) 5 bucks (1,000 gil) = 26 bucks (3,550 gil)

With this formula it would be possible to hit 1,000 chocobucks in as little as 39 (actual # is 38.4) days, this is without entering your bird in any races other then 'free runs' (i didn't factor in any of the other races since data on them is sketchy at best, if you enter your bird in c4 races and he gets first you earn a net gain of 15 bucks but if he comes in 4th or lower you lose 9 or if you do the quest races you gain more that day etc)

*I didn't write them down so the super chocobo in the race could be completely random, it just seems to be what i get a lot.

side not i think i'll write a guide after i'm done with the current bird since most of them have no data on HOW to do/get some of this stuff, i havn't found the above formula anywhere ><.

[Zatias]

Data on how to get what stuff? >.>

The formula you said is trivial if you're zealous enough with raising your bird's stats; there is no limit to the amount of Free Runs you can do in a day (unless you count how many you can do before that actual 24hrs time frame ends, which is going too far imo lol)

Curious did you read my racing guide? XD http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Us...Chocobo_Racing

I didn't link to it last post, sorry about that.

[Kavik]

No, i didn't and my formula assumed that you'd be trying to spend as little gil as possible over the time you have to raise the bird to adulthood to apply them, since not everyone has infinite gil to spend on raising a chocobo. Of course if you want to get bucks faster you can spend 26k for 26 bucks doing the 1k gil races but it seems silly if you're just patient, in 39 days your bird will be at the perfect time to raise all those stats anyway. i myself was one of those people until a few things to my good fortune happened, my brother quit and gave me 3 mules worth of gear which netted me about 2 million gil in sales in addition to 500k in gil, after this gil boom or perhaps during it rather, i began lvling alchemy which with farming my own mats drove me into the margin of pure and very rapid profit, i ended up at 3.5mil (i know i'm prolly behind the curve because thats the most i've ever had and i've been playing for 7 yrs, but i've lived on a short budget because i hate farming for endless hrs even with 90 thf), before that i had hovered around 500k which is not enough to sustain my jobs (echos, food, shihei ((the worst killer @ 100k for a stack of stacks)), there was one point when i was buying these every other day), let alone spells i needed for lvling new jobs and such since i refuse to be gimptastic like most players these days due to abyssea burns and raise chocobo's properly(no less then 3k a day with no immediate reward). So while most people will say, if you don't wanna spend the gil just don't do it there are some people like me that will always search for the 'cheapest' way to do something (like lvling rng to get thf's marksmanship up because bloody bolts are more expensive then bronze bolts, takes work and patience but it's easier on one's wallet)

[Zatias]

I see.

But raising one stat a single level requires about 600 chocobucks, so you may have to resort to not caring about the cost like I did, since you have a limited timeframe before it retires.

[Kavik]

Are race chocotrains better then the training programs they offer which are slightly cheaper? If there is any information on it please point me in the right direction ><. Also, day 28 my newest chick just hit above average on str and endurance.

[Zatias]

Your bird is doing very well in growth XD

And no, the "tokens" increase by the same amount as the normal programs ; ; they are only more expensive because you can sell them and hoard them + 1000 chocobucks.

My race team is never in first (why sandy, why) so I don't have any real data to enforce this. This gut feeling comes from dye; bottles are more expensive than direct coloring but they do the same thing (aside from being able to craft with the dye, which still doesn't impact what it does to your bird)

If you don't mind eating up chocobucks to test this, by all means try it. I just don't recommend it ^^;

*surprised to be talking to people who actually enjoy chocobo raising* lol

[Kavik]

Hehe, I'm in sandy too, but on Phoenix they are always in first. It's really nice to have some direct contact with someone that has raised a lot of birds lol. This is my 6th one and the only one that will probably have decent discernment. I'm looking forward to having a bird that can win all the time and against the damn sheep in the swamptrot 2 race, all my previous birds were a little slow witted >< (ok so really slow witted) lol. I'll have to buy some chocotrains now then, i'm at about 480 bucks now so i had better get on it.