Job Trait "Quick Magic" naturally on RDM?

[Vicious]

Clearly, your understanding of game balance is..... lacking.

[Supersun]

Game balance is entirely relative

[Vicious]

Relative to what, exactly? (Did you mean subjective? Because that's a different word with a different meaning...) Because I'm pretty sure that having Chainspell on a 5 minute recast would be hugely broken; if you doubt me, you can go see what it's like in Abyssea.

[Supersun]

Relative - "something having, or standing in, some relation to something else."

Something can't be broken in of itself. It can only be broken when compared to other things.

[Vicious]

Well no shit, how about, compared to itself in an unbroken state? Your attempt at playing semantics is adorable and all, but it has nothing to do with anything. Game balance itself is whatever the devs make it; opinions about it (such as the stupid one voiced by the 5min JA guy) are subjective. You chiming in with this obvious nonsense you seem to think is so enlightening is laughable.

Don't bother replying unless you have something constructive to say, not getting drawn into a troll fight.

[Supersun]

Something cannot be broken by itself. For something to be broken there must be some reason. I mean all you have managed to do so far is waltz into this thread and just state that his idea is broken

congratulaThat tells us nothing...

Why is it broken? is there some abusable strategy? Does it threaten other jobs? You sort of left that part out of your posts.

If it is broken what can be done to fix it? Increase the recast timer? Limit the types of spells it can work with? Something else you didn't even attempt to say. No concept is so broken that it can't be fixed.

I way TRYING to be nice and ignore your AD HOMINEM BULLCRAP you typed a few posts back and get you to expand on your logic, but apparently you aren't here for any constructive reasons and are just here to troll by attacking other people's ideas without actually contributing anything useful at all.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Well no shit, how about, compared to itself in an unbroken state? Your attempt at playing semantics is adorable and all, but it has nothing to do with anything. Game balance itself is whatever the devs make it; opinions about it (such as the stupid one voiced by the 5min JA guy) are subjective. You chiming in with this obvious nonsense you seem to think is so enlightening is laughable.

Don't bother replying unless you have something constructive to say, not getting drawn into a troll fight.

Wow, rude! Bravo!! Wonder what other website you came from, as if it's hard to guess.

Anyway, I said it's not broken to be shorter than 2-hours I never said the 2-hour should be reduced to 5 minutes I was thinking more ~1 hour. The 5-minute recast was to every other JA that has no real reason to be longer such as Divine Seal, Elemental Seal and so on. These would NOT be game breaking, nor break the fake balance SE moan about that doesn't truly exist.

[Vicious]

Why is it broken? is there some abusable strategy? Does it threaten other jobs? You sort of left that part out of your posts.

If it is broken what can be done to fix it? Increase the recast timer? Limit the types of spells it can work with? Something else you didn't even attempt to say. No concept is so broken that it can't be fixed.

Aside from the amusing rant, which was mildly entertaining I guess, it would appear to me that you need to recheck who wrote what, in response to what; because if I'm reading this correctly... well, someone waltzed in here and started attacking other people without contributing anything, etc., and I'm pretty damn sure it wasn't me.

Anyway, I said it's not broken to be shorter than 2-hours I never said the 2-hour should be reduced to 5 minutes I was thinking more ~1 hour. The 5-minute recast was to every other JA that has no real reason to be longer such as Divine Seal, Elemental Seal and so on.

Not what you wrote, not what I responded to. If you aren't going to communicate your ideas clearly enough for those of us unable to read minds across the internet to understand them, you don't get to bitch when people "misunderstand" you.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Not what you wrote, not what I responded to. If you aren't going to communicate your ideas clearly enough for those of us unable to read minds across the internet to understand them, you don't get to bitch when people "misunderstand" you.

Never said I wanted it at 5 minutes either, I merely included 2-hours as NOT being game breaking if they were shortened.

Unless you're now going to pretend everyone classes 2-hours in the same category as every other JA?

Now that's said lets go back to the topic of the thread and not just post to try to insult people or about some imaginary balance, thank you and good day!

[Rorrick]

I'd love a 5-10% chance to waste 250 MP on a nuke going off in my idle gear.