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  1. 06-08-2011 06:29 AM

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    Player Zetonegi's Avatar
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    Um... the RECAST of Blizzard V with /RDM FC factored in(a little over 40s) you can recover 273mp with 21mp refresh(13 ticks 1sec remaining not factored in). WITHOUT refresh gear you can recover 208mp. If you manage to get a 5s cast time on BlizV thats still 2 more refresh ticks(1 second carrying over from recast) so that's 240mp in the time it takes you to spam BlizV if you have NO REFRESH GEAR. If this is ALL you cast(aka you're being bad) thats 1680 mp lost over 30minutes. You still have MP remaining if you only convert once. Factoring Blizzard IV and you start using more MP yes but if somethings lasting more than 15 minutes you're doing something wrong so where's the problem?.

    And Cure VI is straight up inefficient. It costs twice as much as Cure V but heals much less than twice as much and far more than is needed outside of abyssea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetonegi View Post
    Um... the RECAST of Blizzard V with /RDM FC factored in(a little over 40s) you can recover 273mp with 21mp refresh(13 ticks 1sec remaining not factored in). WITHOUT refresh gear you can recover 208mp. If you manage to get a 5s cast time on BlizV thats still 2 more refresh ticks(1 second carrying over from recast) so that's 240mp in the time it takes you to spam BlizV if you have NO REFRESH GEAR. If this is ALL you cast(aka you're being bad) thats 1680 mp lost over 30minutes. You still have MP remaining if you only convert once. Factoring Blizzard IV and you start using more MP yes but if somethings lasting more than 15 minutes you're doing something wrong so where's the problem?.

    And Cure VI is straight up inefficient. It costs twice as much as Cure V but heals much less than twice as much and far more than is needed outside of abyssea.
    There's no such thing as overnuking as I said before in case anything I say later in this post makes someone think I'm "overnuking".

    You can lower the recast of spells further with Haste as well as FC. You also can only nuke as fast as your mp regenerates. Any boost to refresh is a direct boost to a BLM's stream of damage over time.


    I don't know about the benefits and downside's of Cure VI, but I'm sure WHM will eventually grow into it, like the change from II to III or III to IV. They became more potent as you leveled, until they hit the soft cap. My guess is Cure VI is very far from hitting its soft cap.
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    those that keep calculating the drop rates keep missing the fact that this new system is giving you an extra mil gil a week (cost for two hourglasses under the old way) in which you could then turn to buy the extra currency.

    I have to side with those that this new system is more beneficial to those who were working on relics themselves, and bad for those who either ran dynamis lses or were in one of their friend's lses who was going to help them get it.


    I'm fine with that.
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    Romanova-Ragnarok

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    Player Ryanx's Avatar
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    currency is still not that bad if u can proc !! go in there with 6 ppl focus on procing !! best chance to proc is get all TE and the currency u get in 1 run may be less then doing dyna the old way but you got to look at it this way you used to enter dyna twice a week with your LS if you do dyna everyday currency u get is probly = to the currency you would get from 2 dyna runs in week the old way just proc !! and your good to go still sucks tho doing dyna everyday
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    Player Kensagaku's Avatar
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    I don't know why people are complaining so much about the new system. Once you get the rhythm you can make serious bank and quickly. For example, on a "good" run in Dynamis-San d'Oria (we just run for currency farming now) with my small group of NIN/DNC + THF/NIN + RDM/SCH, we end up getting about 60-80 singles each as well as a lucky 100 most of the time from spamming the boss and NMs whenever they're up. We breeze right through the TEs because it's become just a mechanically easy process now.

    Now assuming that you sell O.Bronze at 13k (a lot more people try to sell higher though, this is just my rate) we were still making nearly 800k/run. Assuming 800k/run for even just 5 days a week farming, that's 4M easy, not to mention an extra mil saved on twice-a-week hourglasses from the old system. 5M a week profit compared to maybe getting a piece of AF2 armor or maybe 1M in attendance payouts per quarter is a pretty nice deal to me. Just get a small group that knows what they're doing or a group that will listen when you try to educate them to the system, and you're set to go.
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    [Kensagaku - formerly of Kujata] - http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Valefor/Kensagaku

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    Player Bumbeen's Avatar
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    200-300. People aren't going to join a dyna ls unless they are idiots or you are going only for dreamland dyna.
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    well i would only do dreamland of course, otherwise its not worth it that work. but what i have to focus on? which jobs which strategie or something?
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    Look it up on wiki.
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    This new dynamis is only bad if you let it be. Sure its "harder" now but that is only if you want to be a drone of killing things.
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