goodbye Relic Weapon :(

[Dijana]

I dont SEE nearly as much currency as I did in my old dyn ls before I left it, but I certainly obtain more. In the ls all currency was kept on the leader's mule, some was sold to afford the next run, the rest was kept towards whoever the leader decided would be getting a relic. Which was usually one of her friends or boyfriends. The rest of us mainly went for the af2. With the changes, I can go in every day whenever I want and farm alone as dnc. Or with friends for fun. Proccing is easy since you dont have to bring specific jobs with you like in aby, and you dont have to follow rules of an ls, just go in with some friends and work out between you what to do. I was selling my currency on the side for a little change, but last night a couple friends and I decided to pool all our drops together to start helping another friend who was on the last stage to finish his relic.

I dont think its so bad, so long as you take the time to figure out how the new system works (unlike my old ls who Im told and went and watched only manage to proc when it was totally by accident lol)

[Hoshi]

The new system isn't that bad but I don't think people have found their rhythm yet. Definitely a waste of time if you're not getting a proc on every mob. Also you can't just farm the trash mobs, you need to spawn the NMs.

[Zaknafein]

No its not easier its longer and more time consuming. For the same 2 hours you spend now you may get like 100 currency on a good day but with the previous system in a city zone you came out with an average of 800 currency easy. So you get less for the same amount of work, which is why people are pissed.

So with a party of six people you were pulling in 800 currency easily? Hmmm.. I agree you have to work at it a bit more than you did in the old style to produce coinage. However that only entails getting the TE, and finding a camp where the job selections you have match up proc wise with the mobs at the camp. When you take into account that you're allowed to enter everyday your math of post update vs old style doesn't add up so to speak.

Let's say just for the sake of argument your math results are correct. If the price of opening dynamis to the general population was making you work slightly harder to get currency out of mobs I'm fine with that. The model of 80% of a linkshell toiling away so a few leaders can horde/decide who is worthy of relicdom was flawed from the get go. I might not agree with all the changes made to the game over the last few expansions. However, the development team got the dynamis update as right as right can be.

[Dart]

if you don't suck and know camps for proc mobs/nms. Going in everyday yields more coins than doing it twice a week.

Basically:

suck less

[Crawlerbasher]

I've never had any problem getting currency in Dynamis.
After getting all 5 TE I and trying to stagger every mob I come across I can get about 18 currency solo.

And with a small group about 100 and on very rare occasion even a 100 currency coin shell or note.

With out getting all 5 TE say I did not get any at all, then I'd be lucky to get 1.

So that's like about 53 currency every 3 days or with a small team about 300 currency every 3 days with the possible chance of additional higher currency.

In this case if its too expensive, then get to gather with your linkshell or friends and go farm the currency your self.
I'm sure your linkshell or friends will help, more so if there want the AFv2 that drop from the Dynamis you doing.

Its because of how easy it is to get, that I've been thinking about spending some time doing a relic weapon.

[Alhanelem]

Hello guys, i am really angry about the new dynamis system. the bine bills etc. are expensive like hell now, cause they reduced droprate of bine bills, takukus etc...
is it fair for people which are on stage 3 or 4??? NO! relic was always hard to get i know,
but now its harder then ever to get a relic weapon...

The new dynamis system is great, especially with the new stuff like the new super bosses. The drop rate isn't that much different if you know how to make more stuff drop.

Sorry, try again.

[Karbuncle]

IDK about all the "Average 100 coins now" at best... ?

I got with maybe 5~7 people, and we average 200+ a run, easily. occasionally up to 350 a run (If we get lucky on some NMs). Which i think is actually low-ending compared to what some groups can do.

We dont even pop the "Hard" NMs, We just farm Mobs + Lottery/forcepop NMs and we still walk away with 200+ a run. This is for Windurst, But our last run, which was easily our worst run, netted us 198 coins.

Again, its more effort (Time wise) but the drop rate is okay, plus the Force-pop NMs apparently have a better drop rate on 100's than anything in old Dynamis did (outside of maybe Shadow lord :P)

Edit: and think of it this way, If you had a group of 18 doing Dynamis Pre-update, You can all 18 go in, Get all TE's, then split into 3 groups of 6.

If you're good... My group can get ~200 with 6, if you split up into 3 teams of 6, You can theoretically get 600 coins a run if you have that many resources/people.

600 every day, 3 days you average 1,800 coins. Much better than "old' Dynamis. Its just more time involved.

[Ravenmore]

It works out to the same amount of time spent waiting. Its really faster but what most of the lol relic builders, you know the ones that conned a whole LS into farming it for them are pissed about is they can't hog all the coins for them selfs like the good old days. Reason anyone bothered to go into a city zone with the old system was to get points to bid on north land gear. Now those leechs of LS leader and thier spon boddys no longer have that carrot to con people with. So now if you want help from LS members they going to want a cut or want you to help biuld them a emp. weapon or +2 sets.

Really a decent run back when it was every 72 hours was around 300 singles with maybe a 100 or 2 throw in. So even with that you could only get 1000 coins a week compare that with what karb said you see why its better while only spending 50k one time not each.

Another reason you don't see many coins in bazzars anymore is people going after relics now don't have to do runs that drop all currancy to keep the minons happy. They can now target only what they need.

Whats really sad is that poeple complaining about the it the most are the same ones that just bought all the coins and were going to merc the other items. Thier mad that now they will have to do some thing other then mindless gil farming. Never had much more respect for a relic holder over anyone useing a AH weapon.

[Zaknafein]

Mindless gil buying*

[Alhanelem]

The lower drop rates ARE balanced by anyone being able to go basically whenever they feel like it. You can go in solo, get all the time extensions and get some coins. Quite a few people do this; you would have been insane to do that before. Then there are still groups going through it (smaller, but more of them, I've seen quite a few).

On Shiva, currency prices have fallen in the last couple weeks.