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  1. #131
    Player Leonlionheart's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Lie to yourself. BP/release SMN have failed to produce a single parse in 6 years. Melee SMN parses started showing up 5 years ago. Until you get off *your* butt, I have to assume you are still sitting on it.
    Obviously BP/release SMN won't produce parses since they are obviously dealing less damage than Melee SMNs. However damage output isn't the real draw of SMN in the first place.

    There are way too many problems with Melee SMN for them to be applicable outside of Abyssea at the moment.
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    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    Obviously BP/release SMN won't produce parses since they are obviously dealing less damage than Melee SMNs. However damage output isn't the real draw of SMN in the first place.

    There are way too many problems with Melee SMN for them to be applicable outside of Abyssea at the moment.
    No one ever said BP/release SMN can out DD SMN melee but it out supports it.
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

  3. #133
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    Why would any SMN just BP/release in Abyssea anyway, since that is what we are talking about.

    Outside of Abyssea, only well geared SMNs can keep their avatars out indefinably.
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  4. #134
    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    Why would any SMN just BP/release in Abyssea anyway, since that is what we are talking about.

    Outside of Abyssea, only well geared SMNs can keep their avatars out indefinably.
    I tend to cycle buffs if I'm in a party, although I don't spend that much time in abyssea other than soloing merits.
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

  5. #135
    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    well, if you want to cycle buffs, who's to stop you?

    My avatars are strong enough to take quite a few hits (with or without atmas) to just send one buff, BP about twice (more depending on what I'm fighting and if I'm in a party or not) and leave it like that.
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  6. #136
    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    well, if you want to cycle buffs, who's to stop you?

    My avatars are strong enough to take quite a few hits (with or without atmas) to just send one buff, BP about twice (more depending on what I'm fighting and if I'm in a party or not) and leave it like that.
    No one except the guys in the relic staff thread lol. It's just a way I've come to feel maximizes my contribution. This of course is outside abyssea/solo. If I'm solo it's assault BP resummon repeat til monster death
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

  7. #137
    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razushu View Post
    No one except the guys in the relic staff thread lol. It's just a way I've come to feel maximizes my contribution. This of course is outside abyssea/solo. If I'm solo it's assault BP resummon repeat til monster death
    Actually, I think Al wouldn't mind having to cycle thru buffs.
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  8. #138
    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    Actually, I think Al wouldn't mind having to cycle thru buffs.
    Not talking bout Al it's Dallas and the anti-SMN brigade that say I can't
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

  9. #139
    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razushu View Post
    Not talking bout Al it's Dallas and the anti-SMN brigade that say I can't
    I wouldn't think of the other people as anti-SMN, but more of broadly anti-melee-SMN and specifically anti-Dallas-ideaology brigade.
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  10. #140
    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    I wouldn't think of the other people as anti-SMN, but more of broadly anti-melee-SMN and specifically anti-Dallas-ideaology brigade.
    Nah I mean the ones that say I can't support a party lol

    I've yet to meet someone thats pro-Dallas but himself, except the person that kept insisting SMN was like DRK or DRG(but even then there was less arrogance by far)
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    Last edited by Razushu; 06-21-2011 at 02:00 AM.

    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

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