[dev1017] Job Adjustments and Refinements

[Korpg]

You don't expect me to give away all my secrets, do you? Korpg is the guy arguing with Columbus that the world is flat, while looking at it from the moon.

So, you are Columbus now?

I think you are more of a Mark Cuban, an unimportant little guy who likes to shoot off his mouth way too much and think he is this world's greatest gift. Emphasis on the unimportant part.

[Sparthos]

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So, you are Columbus now?

I think you are more of a Mark Cuban, an unimportant little guy who likes to shoot off his mouth way too much and think he is this world's greatest gift. Emphasis on the unimportant part.

Well aren't you a Maverick.

[Korpg]

Well aren't you a Maverick.

Nice pun btw

[Dallas]

So, you are Columbus now?

The "you" of 6 years ago thought that a SMN would never hit 100% TP on a Greater Colibri because every melee hit would be 0, and Meditate would simply result in a WS that did 0.

The analogy is sound. I didn't bother listening to "you." I walked right up to a Greater Colibri and hit it. You, on the other hand, are 6 years too late. If it's important, I've already swung my staff at it. I can just say "you are wrong" and smile.

[Korpg]

The "you" of 6 years ago thought that a SMN would never hit 100% TP on a Greater Colibri because every melee hit would be 0, and Meditate would simply result in a WS that did 0.

The analogy is sound. I didn't bother listening to "you." I walked right up to a Greater Colibri and hit it. You, on the other hand, are 6 years too late. If it's important, I've already swung my staff at it. I can just say "you are wrong" and smile.

Some problems with your post:

1) *bolded* Nice example. One Pecking Flurry will result in your death, and One Feather Tickle will result in loss of your TP. Only way for you to kill that would be if, and only if, it uses Snatch Morsel exclusively.

2) 6 years ago, you didn't have an excuse to melee. You wiffed 30% of the time, or to gear right, you couldn't afford to keep your avatar out forever. Nobody could, but you would lose your avatar within 2 minutes. You would be called stupid, gimp, moronic, and other names that have their place on less reputable forums.

3) You would have done that by yourself. Any merit party who invited you would have asked themselves to gimp their xp/hr so bad, and you would have made SMN look bad, regardless of what you did.

4) The only thing you have done is show how much of a jerk you are. Al was the one who has proven that melee summoners are plausible, not you. All you have done is made SMNs look bad because of your arrogant attitude towards anyone who questions your way of thinking and calling people lazy/gimp for not doing things the same way you do. Your "I'm God and you better know it" opinion of yourself has done nothing but grief to anyone who wishes to either defend or support you.

All in short, shut the f**k up.

[Malamasala]

1) *bolded* Nice example. One Pecking Flurry will result in your death, and One Feather Tickle will result in loss of your TP. Only way for you to kill that would be if, and only if, it uses Snatch Morsel exclusively.

Is he soloing at merit camps now? Or is he out-DDing every single job in the game? Else I'm not sure a bird would pecking flurry at him.

2) 6 years ago, you didn't have an excuse to melee. You wiffed 30% of the time, or to gear right, you couldn't afford to keep your avatar out forever. Nobody could, but you would lose your avatar within 2 minutes. You would be called stupid, gimp, moronic, and other names that have their place on less reputable forums.

Well, 6 years ago the only thing a Summoner did was cast cure 3. I'm not sure what your point is here.

3) You would have done that by yourself. Any merit party who invited you would have asked themselves to gimp their xp/hr so bad, and you would have made SMN look bad, regardless of what you did.

Anyone, inviting SMN to anything, are gimping themselves. A job that is worse than others can't be part of a perfect setup.

4) The only thing you have done is show how much of a jerk you are. Al was the one who has proven that melee summoners are plausible, not you. All you have done is made SMNs look bad because of your arrogant attitude towards anyone who questions your way of thinking and calling people lazy/gimp for not doing things the same way you do. Your "I'm God and you better know it" opinion of yourself has done nothing but grief to anyone who wishes to either defend or support you.

I'd say you are just as much a jerk for questioning him constantly. Believe me, my arrogance grew every single day I had to hear stupid comments like "ZOMG SMN feeding the monster TP. Run away, AOE instant death incoming!".

Not defending Dallas at all, but I can't leave people alone who try and argue their side by using arguments that doesn't support either side. You can't sit there and call a melee SMN useless because it can't out-DD WARs, and then say it is a divine healer even if it heals worse than a WHM. The job sucks at everything except running away from monsters, accept it.

[Raksha]

The "you" of 6 years ago thought that a SMN would never hit 100% TP on a Greater Colibri because every melee hit would be 0, and Meditate would simply result in a WS that did 0.

Are you guys still talking about Myrkr? Cause ... you know ... it does 0 damage...

[Korpg]

Not defending Dallas at all, but I can't leave people alone who try and argue their side by using arguments that doesn't support either side. You can't sit there and call a melee SMN useless because it can't out-DD WARs, and then say it is a divine healer even if it heals worse than a WHM. The job sucks at everything except running away from monsters, accept it.

So what if it can't out DD a WAR, or out cure a RDM?

I never tried to out DD a WAR, nor make any baseless claims stating that a SMN can. Neither have I stated that it could out cure any actual healing jobs.

The job does not suck. Just because you suck at it doesn't mean that the job sucks period. I don't know any other jobs besides BST that can solo as many NMs as a SMN can. And there are some NMs out there that not even a BST can touch, but SMNs solo it with ease.

Dallas's problem is that he is so stuck on himself to realize the error of his idea. Maybe he does realize the error, but is too prideful to admit it.

I don't know what you have against SMN, but it is one of the most versatile jobs in this game.

[Dallas]

The only thing you have done is show how much of a jerk you are. Al was the one who has proven that melee summoners are plausible, not you.

All in short, shut the f**k up.

Don't you feel even marginally stupid for spending 20% of your posts following me around showing everyone how wrong you are? I didn't want to convince you, I made an example of you.

You don't have to follow me anymore. You lost, angry guy.

[Leonlionheart]

Don't you feel even marginally stupid for spending 20% of your posts following me around showing everyone how wrong you are? I didn't want to convince you, I made an example of you.

You don't have to follow me anymore. You lost, angry guy.

Dallas, no one is agreeing with you. Throughout this thread and the mythic/emp/relic staff thread people are just poking their heads in proving you wrong...