[dev1017] Job Adjustments and Refinements

[Alhanelem]

It's meaningful because it was a challenge. No one gives a fark what it drops.

[Alhanelem]

So that begs the question of what I haven't done before?

Improper use of "begs the question" phrase alert!

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[Korpg]

Improper use of "begs the question" phrase alert!

http://begthequestion.info/

sorry.....

[Malamasala]

1) *bolded* Nice example. One Pecking Flurry will result in your death, and One Feather Tickle will result in loss of your TP. Only way for you to kill that would be if, and only if, it uses Snatch Morsel exclusively.

Is he soloing at merit camps now? Or is he out-DDing every single job in the game? Else I'm not sure a bird would pecking flurry at him.

2) 6 years ago, you didn't have an excuse to melee. You wiffed 30% of the time, or to gear right, you couldn't afford to keep your avatar out forever. Nobody could, but you would lose your avatar within 2 minutes. You would be called stupid, gimp, moronic, and other names that have their place on less reputable forums.

Well, 6 years ago the only thing a Summoner did was cast cure 3. I'm not sure what your point is here.

3) You would have done that by yourself. Any merit party who invited you would have asked themselves to gimp their xp/hr so bad, and you would have made SMN look bad, regardless of what you did.

Anyone, inviting SMN to anything, are gimping themselves. A job that is worse than others can't be part of a perfect setup.

4) The only thing you have done is show how much of a jerk you are. Al was the one who has proven that melee summoners are plausible, not you. All you have done is made SMNs look bad because of your arrogant attitude towards anyone who questions your way of thinking and calling people lazy/gimp for not doing things the same way you do. Your "I'm God and you better know it" opinion of yourself has done nothing but grief to anyone who wishes to either defend or support you.

I'd say you are just as much a jerk for questioning him constantly. Believe me, my arrogance grew every single day I had to hear stupid comments like "ZOMG SMN feeding the monster TP. Run away, AOE instant death incoming!".

Not defending Dallas at all, but I can't leave people alone who try and argue their side by using arguments that doesn't support either side. You can't sit there and call a melee SMN useless because it can't out-DD WARs, and then say it is a divine healer even if it heals worse than a WHM. The job sucks at everything except running away from monsters, accept it.

[Korpg]

Not defending Dallas at all, but I can't leave people alone who try and argue their side by using arguments that doesn't support either side. You can't sit there and call a melee SMN useless because it can't out-DD WARs, and then say it is a divine healer even if it heals worse than a WHM. The job sucks at everything except running away from monsters, accept it.

So what if it can't out DD a WAR, or out cure a RDM?

I never tried to out DD a WAR, nor make any baseless claims stating that a SMN can. Neither have I stated that it could out cure any actual healing jobs.

The job does not suck. Just because you suck at it doesn't mean that the job sucks period. I don't know any other jobs besides BST that can solo as many NMs as a SMN can. And there are some NMs out there that not even a BST can touch, but SMNs solo it with ease.

Dallas's problem is that he is so stuck on himself to realize the error of his idea. Maybe he does realize the error, but is too prideful to admit it.

I don't know what you have against SMN, but it is one of the most versatile jobs in this game.

[Dallas]

You can't prove me wrong if you can't even swing a staff.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Math is hard guys.

[Dallas]

Math is hard guys.

I only use Myrkr at 300% TP. That means every time I use it, I hit something. All the math in the world isn't going to convince me my staff is inaccurate.

People need to skill up their staves and find something they can't hit. I know what I can't hit. Abyssea gnats while using tank atma. The little buggers have TP reset too, so I avoid these guys like the plague.

Actually having skill goes a long way towards filtering out 90% of baseless claims. I don't even address them. The poster knows the difference between fact and fiction.

[Sparthos]

I only use Myrkr at 300% TP. That means every time I use it, I hit something. All the math in the world isn't going to convince me my staff is inaccurate.

People need to skill up their staves and find something they can't hit. I know what I can't hit. Abyssea gnats while using tank atma. The little buggers have TP reset too, so I avoid these guys like the plague.

Actually having skill goes a long way towards filtering out 90% of baseless claims. I don't even address them. The poster knows the difference between fact and fiction.

Show us the parses. No math involved.

[Leonlionheart]

I only use Myrkr at 300% TP. That means every time I use it, I hit something. All the math in the world isn't going to convince me my staff is inaccurate.

People need to skill up their staves and find something they can't hit. I know what I can't hit. Abyssea gnats while using tank atma. The little buggers have TP reset too, so I avoid these guys like the plague.

Actually having skill goes a long way towards filtering out 90% of baseless claims. I don't even address them. The poster knows the difference between fact and fiction.

I have capped skill on war but not capped accuracy. WAR gets 20+12+7 accuracy in gear, SMN gets at most like 18... They have the same skill.

Edit: fighting general NMs for red in most situations.