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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    I've actually got a Screenshot laying around with a 11,000 Damage Heavenly Strike, was a Set bonus Proc (Which FYI Has a pretty decent proc rate).
    It only has around 5% proc rate...I guess it would seem right only because of the way the avatar deals its damage every 45 sec....it would be kinda imba if no BP:R timers existed and your are able to BP:R at will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
    It is actually interesting to see that some get 11k-15k numbers on their triggers, while I've only seen as high as 6k. Is the damage bonus based on how much your blood boon saves in MP as well? Because I can't imagine swapping the refresh atma for another MAB atma would give x2 damage on a trigger. (Assuming these 12k people actually had 3 MAB atmas on)
    It varies depending on the % of MP saved from Blood Boon.

    1/2 MP saved = 50% damage increase (150% total damage)
    3/4 MP saved = 75% damage increase (175% total damage)
    7/8 MP saved = 100% damage increase (200% total damage)

    And the proc rate is about 5% with two +2 items, increasing as you get more items. Since the proc rate of Blood Boon is so low anyway, I think that with all 5 pieces, I get about a 20% proc rate when it saves me MP on Blood Boon. Still not a lot since I think Blood Boon is about ~25% proc rate for me every 45 seconds (Soulscourge (+5%), Caller's Spats +2 (+10%) and initial trait ~10%) to get a 20% proc rate for +2 set (.25 * .2 = .05, so you are looking at 5% proc rate with full set)

    As for atmas, Beyond + Minkin + Ultimate are my choices. Most of the time I get 11k damage is when I'm fighting IT++ or NMs though. Maybe if I fight something that takes triple damage on magical damage, it would look even better.
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    No, Just to be very clear Blood Boon and Blood Boon Augment do NOT share/stack%

    It makes sense because why would SE allow up to 50% proc rate with Blood Boon Agument

    You would proc more than 55% of .x damage...would be nice but extremely imba.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundwave View Post
    No, Just to be very clear Blood Boon and Blood Boon Augment do NOT share/stack%

    It makes sense because why would SE allow up to 50% proc rate with Blood Boon Agument

    You would proc more than 55% of .x damage...would be nice but extremely imba.
    I didn't say they share the same proc rate.

    I said that (for me) I proc Blood Boon at about 25% of the time.

    I also said that 5/5 +2 set is about 20% (at least, I think it is, would make sense, and that's about the rate I eyeballed it as)

    Since 1/4 of the time I use a Blood Pact: Rage I end up saving MP from Blood Boon, and about 1/5 of the time Blood Boon set procs, it would make sense to say that 1/5th of 1/4 (1/20) would be around average of all the Blood Pacts to proc set bonus.

    Which goes about the same rate as other AF+2 set bonuses.
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    You would proc more than 55% of .x damage...would be nice but extremely imba.
    I think it is quite the opposite of imba if I play SMN every single day and have never seen an 11k proc so far. But the random number generator has always worked against me.

    It's always been like this. SMN being great at damage, once a blue moon. Would it kill the game if SMN was good once a day or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
    I think it is quite the opposite of imba if I play SMN every single day and have never seen an 11k proc so far. But the random number generator has always worked against me.

    It's always been like this. SMN being great at damage, once a blue moon. Would it kill the game if SMN was good once a day or something?
    With perfect defense, SMN is good every 2 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    I didn't say they share the same proc rate.

    I said that (for me) I proc Blood Boon at about 25% of the time.

    I also said that 5/5 +2 set is about 20% (at least, I think it is, would make sense, and that's about the rate I eyeballed it as)

    Since 1/4 of the time I use a Blood Pact: Rage I end up saving MP from Blood Boon, and about 1/5 of the time Blood Boon set procs, it would make sense to say that 1/5th of 1/4 (1/20) would be around average of all the Blood Pacts to proc set bonus.

    Which goes about the same rate as other AF+2 set bonuses.
    npnp just going by what you said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    With perfect defense, SMN is good every 2 hours.
    Go solo Brazen Bones in the Canal as any of your listed jobs, including SMN.

    Or Onvi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    Go solo Brazen Bones in the Canal as any of your listed jobs, including SMN.

    Or Onvi
    Not sure the point you're trying to make here.
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    SMN is not good for just one thing, that was my point.
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