[dev1017] Yonin/Innin

[scaevola]

So I went and fought some of the higher level dynamis mobs today, and my acc was only about 85% on ninja, on VTs, not even IT mobs. Not using acc food, not using yonin, using 475 total accuracy in gear/skill/dex, I could only manage an 85% hit rate. This is really as much as you can get on ninja (mithra no less) before you start making major cuts into your damage potential by swapping in accuracy gear, and it's horrible.

So you got 85% accuracy against VT mobs outside Abyssea with no food and no gear slots specifically designated for accuracy over a potentially higher-damage stat spread assuming accuracy were capped?

And you are complaining about this?

[wish12oz]

So you got 85% accuracy against VT mobs outside Abyssea with no food and no gear slots specifically designated for accuracy over a potentially higher-damage stat spread assuming accuracy were capped?

And you are complaining about this?

Mithra, and I was giving up 1.5% haste, some attack and crit damage and lots of dex as well as some dual wield.

[scaevola]

Mithra, and I was giving up 1.5% haste, some attack and crit damage and lots of dex as well as some dual wield.

You had to give up DEX? And 1.5% Haste? Horrors!

Accuracy is supposed to be a meaningful mechanic. Eat pizza.

[wish12oz]

You had to give up DEX? And 1.5% Haste? Horrors!

Accuracy is supposed to be a meaningful mechanic. Eat pizza.

Just because you do not understand the benefit of capping crit rate through DEX, doesn't mean the concept is lost on those of us who like to do good damage.

Also: Ninja was already pretty far behind, losing ANYTHING, makes it more behind then it already was, and unable to be played with a decent group.

Really attack gear has always been lol if you could get acc in that same slot, and unlike the "sushi biulds" stacking as much attack gear as you could eating sushi with cap haste wouldn't hurt you. Before abyssea TPing in crit hit gear added little value WSing it was better. The crit hit weapon you couldn't swap out to WS so had to leave them on, or if you were mnk ther wasn't anything better. On any HNM at 75 no one had 95% acc on them with out food.

So, you think using sushi is ok, when other melees can use their normal gear, and eat meat.
So other melees get a bunch of attack increasing their damage even more, and ninjas get to... gain acc that other melees have no problem with at all.
So in reality the ninja is falling further behind, and the other melees are gaining even more of a damage advantage over the ninja, when the ninja was already 30%+ behind?
This is what you're saying is ok?

The problem is that you have to give up EVERYTHING for acc on NIN to hit a 'not even capped' acc rate. And then on top of that, Yonin, which is suppose to help you tank, actually drops your hit rate by 10% on average. (starts at 15%, moves to 5%)