[dev1017] Yonin/Innin

[wish12oz]

Other stuff might matter next update, but right now nothing else does so no thank you.

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.] This is needed now, so that when they add even more stuff, and all of the rest of the population of the game catches up with the people leading the charge, it's not an issue.

They only told us a portion actually, and that's not for the next major update. And until the next major update, Abyssea will be the only thing that really matters.

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.] there's lots of 'new content' outside abyssea that matters.

Those jobs will always take damage if they don't suck/ aren't using /thf and thusly sucking. Inside Aby: 2 Ukko's = more or less hate cap, outside its maybe 4 ukko's. Hate cap = take damage.

Provided the ninja reaches the hate cap before/at the same time, all you have to do is attack faster then them to keep hate off them, which is easy inside abyssea, and impossible outside on anything above even match.

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NIN deals much, much, much, much more damage than PLD in and even moreso out of abyssea. PLD's best WS (other than zoro) deals maximum of like 950 damage, while Hi still spikes up to 3k outside. Zoro does like 2k outside. Jin does like 1.8kish too, assuming you don't suck.

It's not that much if the paladin is good and has proper gear. And apladin has a much greater advantage outside abyssea on anything above even match, since well, ninja can't cap hate because their damage is crap. Also: Hi only goes up to 3k outside on weak mobs, and only averages 2k with amazing gear...... on weak mobs. Once you fight harder mobs, you're lucky if you average 800. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.]

[Kimble]

They did tell us, did you not see the timeline they gave us up till the end of the year?

[Leonlionheart]

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.] This is needed now, so that when they add even more stuff, and all of the rest of the population of the game catches up with the people leading the charge, it's not an issue.

:[ Useless gear other than +3 march harp is useless.

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.] there's lots of 'new content' outside abyssea that matters.

No, actually there isn't... Empyrean+2 Empyrean weapons and most of the accessories are still waaaaaaaaaaaay better :[

Provided the ninja reaches the hate cap before/at the same time, all you have to do is attack faster then them to keep hate off them, which is easy inside abyssea, and impossible outside on anything above even match.

How does anyone other than THF and DNC attack faster than NIN?

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You misread me, I meant: If you're a melee and subbing THF you suck, unless the situation calls for it cause you know, situational shit is situational.

It's not that much if the paladin is good and has proper gear. And apladin has a much greater advantage outside abyssea on anything above even match, since well, ninja can't cap hate because their damage is crap. Also: Hi only goes up to 3k outside on weak mobs, and only averages 2k with amazing gear...... on weak mobs. Once you fight harder mobs, you're lucky if you average 800. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.]

IDK what even matches you're finding outside aby that you can't cap hate on with pizza o.O:

When you cap hate the mob turns to you and the others who cap hate broseph, so basically your tanking is useless if you are at cap hate with more than one person. Personal attacks are cool though.

I play with NIN everyday, don't ask me exactly how they do it themselves but they seem to be quite good at doing it.

[wish12oz]

Useless gear other than +3 march harp is useless.

'cuz u no, there isn't gonna be any more voidwatch, and those tier 4 pops wont be required for tier 5. And a 5 PDT hat is junk, those new 3 pdt gloves, junk, new 3 pdt boots, also junk, even though they're also the best boots for torcleaver, thats new 9 vit necklace, which is also very good for torcleaver until you acquire hadhavas necklace with vit and quad attack, that new oneiros knife, looks useful to me, Jinang greatsword is total crap too, thats why people pay 5m for it on my server, cause it's garbage, that mdb throwing item that wont make you lose tp switching it on for mdt sets is also crap right? a grip with regen and refresh is also crap, calcemac trousers are junk too, thats why so many people use them and pay 1-2mil for them, enhancing skill12 on that new mage body is useless, and so is the fast cast on it, an int6 mab6 helm is also useless right? belts with fishing/mining/chocobo digging enhancements are also terrible, along with rings that increase skill up rates. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.]

IDK what even matches you're finding outside aby that you can't cap hate on with pizza o.O:

Pizza isn't enough to cap acc on hard mobs. And it's definitely not enough to cap acc and use yonin.

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[Leonlionheart]

'cuz u no, there isn't gonna be any more voidwatch, and those tier 4 pops wont be required for tier 5. And a 5 PDT hat is junk, those new 3 pdt gloves, junk, new 3 pdt boots, also junk, even though they're also the best boots for torcleaver, thats new 9 vit necklace, which is also very good for torcleaver until you acquire hadhavas necklace with vit and quad attack, that new oneiros knife, looks useful to me, Jinang greatsword is total crap too, thats why people pay 5m for it on my server, cause it's garbage, that mdb throwing item that wont make you lose tp switching it on for mdt sets is also crap right? a grip with regen and refresh is also crap, calcemac trousers are junk too, thats why so many people use them and pay 1-2mil for them, enhancing skill12 on that new mage body is useless, and so is the fast cast on it, an int6 mab6 helm is also useless right? belts with fishing/mining/chocobo digging enhancements are also terrible, along with rings that increase skill up rates. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.]


Pizza isn't enough to cap acc on hard mobs. And it's definitely not enough to cap acc and use yonin. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.]

Jesus, stop talking about content you know nothing of. 50% of those drops are from KCNM50

I mean seriously I personally confirmed most of those drops... I could even go in those fights nude and win they are so easy...

[wish12oz]

50% of those drops are from KCNM50

My original comment was "Just because you're bad at the game and not doing the new content"

Kindred crest BCs count as new content, since well, its content that was just added. And the other half must be from dynamis and voidwatch! So even if you wanted me to only point out items from voidwatch which are useful other then a +3 march instrument, I still accomplished this. You should really stop posting, you're just making yourself look worse.

[Leonlionheart]

My original comment was "Just because you're bad at the game and not doing the new content"

Kindred crest BCs count as new content, since well, its content that was just added. And the other half must be from dynamis and voidwatch! So even if you wanted me to only point out items from voidwatch which are useful other then a +3 march instrument, I still accomplished this. You should really stop posting, you're just making yourself look worse.

But they're not hard. I thought you were talking about hard things, but I guess everything is hard for you :[

Half of them would be 50% too, math gogogo

The ones other than +3 march harp are hardly useful other than for torcleaver lol

[Leonlionheart]

well there are some niche pieces, but they are more sidegrades than upgrades

[Vivik]

Can't argue with someone who did CoP before caps were taken off....

[noodles355]

It has never been accepted to try to cap crit with dex seeing how we do not know mobs stats.

Actually on Greater Colibri when the level cap was 75, it was.