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    Quote Originally Posted by kingfury View Post
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    I'm pretty surprise to be finding out that not all WARs prefer 2hr Cleaving when at all possible in Abyssea. It's... pure... crack in a handbag... it's... smex(Super Made Sex)! Try it as often as you can! @-@
    I have other things to spend cruor on. Whether all mobs die in 3 seconds or 10 seconds doesn't matter to me at all. And I'm not that hot for high numbers, at least not on stuff that doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    I have other things to spend cruor on. Whether all mobs die in 3 seconds or 10 seconds doesn't matter to me at all. And I'm not that hot for high numbers, at least not on stuff that doesn't matter.
    You'll make way more cruor over time if you are killing things faster.

    Assuming you have a puller worth a damn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    You'll make way more cruor over time if you are killing things faster.

    Assuming you have a puller worth a damn
    Even without using Mighty Strikes, I can kill a lot faster than it would take the puller to even run back to the pulling point. And my example was still bad, I usually kill things with three hits tops. Mighty Strikes would reduce that to up to two hits. And since I can literally WS back-to-back, it takes me about 2 seconds longer to kill with than without. If you time MS badly, you even lose out on those two seconds again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Even without using Mighty Strikes, I can kill a lot faster than it would take the puller to even run back to the pulling point. And my example was still bad, I usually kill things with three hits tops. Mighty Strikes would reduce that to up to two hits. And since I can literally WS back-to-back, it takes me about 2 seconds longer to kill with than without. If you time MS badly, you even lose out on those two seconds again.
    I guess it depends on the target, but you could easily 1hit the common targets for a FC.

    Mighty Strikes also lets you kill things that would be otherwise unfeasible to FC on; things that hit too hard and too fast.

    Situational stuff is situational.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Even without using Mighty Strikes, I can kill a lot faster than it would take the puller to even run back to the pulling point. And my example was still bad, I usually kill things with three hits tops. Mighty Strikes would reduce that to up to two hits. And since I can literally WS back-to-back, it takes me about 2 seconds longer to kill with than without. If you time MS badly, you even lose out on those two seconds again.
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    Yeah, a 2hr FC can wipe out lots of mobs with one swipe, occasionally leaving like 2-3 stubborn mobs up with 2-5% HP left. Can't beat the efficiency of possibly using 1 WS vs multiple.
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingfury View Post
    Yeah, a 2hr FC can wipe out lots of mobs with one swipe, occasionally leaving like 2-3 stubborn mobs up with 2-5% HP left. Can't beat the efficiency of possibly using 1 WS vs multiple.
    Those 2-3 stubborn mobs will take longer to kill than to perform another Fell Cleave using Retaliation to build TP, with 10 mobs hitting you. The difference is negligible, especially if you consider it will take the puller some time to simply run back to the respawn point. What Leon said, it depends on the target, I didn't consider using MS to use FC on stronger targets. Personally I don't FC much anyway, but the few times I did, I experienced with different styles and found barely any difference between going all out and half-assing it, when it came to efficiency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Those 2-3 stubborn mobs will take longer to kill than to perform another Fell Cleave using Retaliation to build TP, with 10 mobs hitting you. The difference is negligible, especially if you consider it will take the puller some time to simply run back to the respawn point. What Leon said, it depends on the target, I didn't consider using MS to use FC on stronger targets. Personally I don't FC much anyway, but the few times I did, I experienced with different styles and found barely any difference between going all out and half-assing it, when it came to efficiency.
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    Oh you gotta get on some more FC'ing! Good for the back y'know.

    But nah, the few scraggler mobs holding on for dear life, only take one hit to dispose of. You almost feel sorry for them while commending their will to survive... almost... and them BOOM! /Scores a Critical hit for 650!
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