Fell Cleave Options

[Leonlionheart]

+2 > Twilight > Viking hat if only targeting one mob
Twilight > Viking hat > +2 if targeting a group since iirc DA can only hit the main mob (Although this may just be when using Warrior's Charge, in which case +2 is probably always better)

for legs +2 are better than teutates I'd say, because in my experience FC doesn't get an accuracy boost. Of course Hachiryu Haidate are optimal, and the WS DMG+2 trophy pants might even beat that if you're using VV (which you should unless you can keep up Mighty Strikes, in which case use Sanguine Scythe. It's not particularly hard to keep up Mighty Strikes either when Azure and Pearl is capped). Mighty Strikes does make FC crit, like all WS.

[Arcon]

for legs +2 are better than teutates I'd say, because in my experience FC doesn't get an accuracy boost.

It's hard to say, on current content my accuracy is capped on almost everything. Especially everything FC worthy.

Of course Hachiryu Haidate are optimal, and the WS DMG+2 trophy pants might even beat that if you're using VV (which you should unless you can keep up Mighty Strikes, in which case use Sanguine Scythe. It's not particularly hard to keep up Mighty Strikes either when Azure and Pearl is capped). Mighty Strikes does make FC crit, like all WS.

Does that hold true for AoE hits too? I never tried that actually, imo it's not worth getting chests when mobs die so soon anyway.

[Myrid]

Does that hold true for AoE hits too? I never tried that actually, imo it's not worth getting chests when mobs die so soon anyway.

Yes, using cleave while MS is active makes the forced crit apply to everything. When my friends and I get lazy in a cleave, I've taken to just spamming keys on every blue chest that drops and MS'ing when it's up.

[kingfury]

Yes, using cleave while MS is active makes the forced crit apply to everything. When my friends and I get lazy in a cleave, I've taken to just spamming keys on every blue chest that drops and MS'ing when it's up.

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I'm pretty surprise to be finding out that not all WARs prefer 2hr Cleaving when at all possible in Abyssea. It's... pure... crack in a handbag... it's... smex(Super Made Sex)! Try it as often as you can! @-@

[Arcon]

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I'm pretty surprise to be finding out that not all WARs prefer 2hr Cleaving when at all possible in Abyssea. It's... pure... crack in a handbag... it's... smex(Super Made Sex)! Try it as often as you can! @-@

I have other things to spend cruor on. Whether all mobs die in 3 seconds or 10 seconds doesn't matter to me at all. And I'm not that hot for high numbers, at least not on stuff that doesn't matter.

[Leonlionheart]

I have other things to spend cruor on. Whether all mobs die in 3 seconds or 10 seconds doesn't matter to me at all. And I'm not that hot for high numbers, at least not on stuff that doesn't matter.

You'll make way more cruor over time if you are killing things faster.

Assuming you have a puller worth a damn

[Arcon]

You'll make way more cruor over time if you are killing things faster.

Assuming you have a puller worth a damn

Even without using Mighty Strikes, I can kill a lot faster than it would take the puller to even run back to the pulling point. And my example was still bad, I usually kill things with three hits tops. Mighty Strikes would reduce that to up to two hits. And since I can literally WS back-to-back, it takes me about 2 seconds longer to kill with than without. If you time MS badly, you even lose out on those two seconds again.

[Leonlionheart]

It's hard to say, on current content my accuracy is capped on almost everything. Especially everything FC worthy.



Does that hold true for AoE hits too? I never tried that actually, imo it's not worth getting chests when mobs die so soon anyway.

Yes it does, and it is worth it when you kill them in 1 hit. Giving you much more time to find that ISL chest. FC does waaaaay more than RR when you mighty strikes and couple it with Warrior's Charge if you don't have Ukko's. RR caps at around 5.8k in my experiance and FC can do up to 6.5k with mighty strikes and TA proc.

[Arcon]

Yes it does, and it is worth it when you kill them in 1 hit. Giving you much more time to find that ISL chest. FC does waaaaay more than RR when you mighty strikes and couple it with Warrior's Charge if you don't have Ukko's. RR caps at around 5.8k in my experiance and FC can do up to 6.5k with mighty strikes and TA proc.

That's interesting, I didn't consider that. Although I'm guessing that's only in Abyssea, because of the high STR mod on Fell Cleave, and very low STR mod on Raging Rush (mods play a much higher role inside Abyssea). Outside I'm guessing it still beats Fell Cleave with Mighty Strikes up. King's Justice should be comparable, if not better, than Fell Cleave inside Abyssea (Mighty Strikes only).

Does TA from Atma override Warrior's Charge? I thought it didn't.

[Leonlionheart]

That's interesting, I didn't consider that. Although I'm guessing that's only in Abyssea, because of the high STR mod on Fell Cleave, and very low STR mod on Raging Rush (mods play a much higher role inside Abyssea). Outside I'm guessing it still beats Fell Cleave with Mighty Strikes up. King's Justice should be comparable, if not better, than Fell Cleave inside Abyssea (Mighty Strikes only).

Does TA from Atma override Warrior's Charge? I thought it didn't.

it doesn't my wording is bad, but FC should still do more with just DA, although it will be closer to RR