Fell Cleave Options

[Leonlionheart]

It's hard to say, on current content my accuracy is capped on almost everything. Especially everything FC worthy.



Does that hold true for AoE hits too? I never tried that actually, imo it's not worth getting chests when mobs die so soon anyway.

Yes it does, and it is worth it when you kill them in 1 hit. Giving you much more time to find that ISL chest. FC does waaaaay more than RR when you mighty strikes and couple it with Warrior's Charge if you don't have Ukko's. RR caps at around 5.8k in my experiance and FC can do up to 6.5k with mighty strikes and TA proc.

[Arcon]

Yes it does, and it is worth it when you kill them in 1 hit. Giving you much more time to find that ISL chest. FC does waaaaay more than RR when you mighty strikes and couple it with Warrior's Charge if you don't have Ukko's. RR caps at around 5.8k in my experiance and FC can do up to 6.5k with mighty strikes and TA proc.

That's interesting, I didn't consider that. Although I'm guessing that's only in Abyssea, because of the high STR mod on Fell Cleave, and very low STR mod on Raging Rush (mods play a much higher role inside Abyssea). Outside I'm guessing it still beats Fell Cleave with Mighty Strikes up. King's Justice should be comparable, if not better, than Fell Cleave inside Abyssea (Mighty Strikes only).

Does TA from Atma override Warrior's Charge? I thought it didn't.

[Leonlionheart]

That's interesting, I didn't consider that. Although I'm guessing that's only in Abyssea, because of the high STR mod on Fell Cleave, and very low STR mod on Raging Rush (mods play a much higher role inside Abyssea). Outside I'm guessing it still beats Fell Cleave with Mighty Strikes up. King's Justice should be comparable, if not better, than Fell Cleave inside Abyssea (Mighty Strikes only).

Does TA from Atma override Warrior's Charge? I thought it didn't.

it doesn't my wording is bad, but FC should still do more with just DA, although it will be closer to RR

[Aurara]

If you dont want ruby, can use cataclysm, dont need to rely on 2hr chests.

[Leonlionheart]

If you dont want ruby, can use cataclysm, dont need to rely on 2hr chests.

This is true, but needs more healing most of the time, as you'll be taking much more damage since the highest cataclysm i've seen is only 2.3k, which requires you to gimp your atmas quite a bit and a huge overhall in MAB gear.

[Aurara]

This is true, but needs more healing most of the time, as you'll be taking much more damage since the highest cataclysm i've seen is only 2.3k, which requires you to gimp your atmas quite a bit and a huge overhall in MAB gear.

my catas do 2.5-2.6k, and with retaliation+20+ mobs TP isn't an issue, also PDT gear/phalanx shouldnt be an issue lol.

[Gokku]

idk if its been mentioned but with PDT gear and atmas on war/rdm you can AE mobs down, not as safe as on pld but it does work just fine.

[Byrth]

I cleave on Dancer. The actual kill may be slower, but it requires very little support. Generally I build 300TP and 5 Finishing moves on a monster while I check chests with another account, and then I pull everything. Sekka -> Aeolian Edge -> Aeolian Edge -> Reverse Flourish -> Aeolian Edge -> Meditate +hits (OA2-4 offhand) -> Aeolian Edge kills everything and takes <30 seconds (unless the monsters are being dicks and running through my body). Checking chests is always the bad part.

[Leonlionheart]

I cleave on Dancer. The actual kill may be slower, but it requires very little support. Generally I build 300TP and 5 Finishing moves on a monster while I check chests with another account, and then I pull everything. Sekka -> Aeolian Edge -> Aeolian Edge -> Reverse Flourish -> Aeolian Edge -> Meditate +hits (OA2-4 offhand) -> Aeolian Edge kills everything and takes <30 seconds (unless the monsters are being dicks and running through my body). Checking chests is always the bad part.

There are tons of jobs that do AoE burning better than WAR, WAR just does it fastest provided enough support.

BLM, BLU, DNC, THF, NIN, MNK(MNK takes as much support/more support than war though) can all do it provided with correct gear and/or atma, and to a lesser extent RDM can do it with Chainspell (and just nuking the crap out of everything you see, instead of pulling/waiting)

I personally do it on BLU solo, though it takes a bit longer because of buffs/sleep/debuffs. WAR+RDM or WAR+WHM+fisherman I believe is the fastest, since mighty strikes + FC = 1hit, or so close to 1hit banishga II could finish them.

[Arcon]

There are tons of jobs that do AoE burning better than WAR, WAR just does it fastest provided enough support.

WAR can also do it solo, just not quite as well. As I said, if you don't go for the one-shot, pull a bunch of penguins, with 3x Def/Regen Atma on and full PDT gear and Defender, still only takes 3 or 4 WS to kill mobs, which is still only 10-15 seconds. And while you open chests and wait for repops, the Regen is enough to cure you back up. That's why I find it unnecessary to gear amazingly for FC burns. I used to pull and cleave both on WAR, with a semi-afk WHM on the side, did it without any problems and it was fast and efficient. This doesn't work with all mobs of course, but weak hitting mobs like mandies or penguins or chigoes, you'll have it really easy on WAR.