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    Player Francisco's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catsby View Post
    The vast majority of bard's spellbook. If it isn't march, minuet, ballad or carol then it's probably never going to be used.
    Elegy says hi.
    And Threnody.
    And Mazurka.
    And Lullaby.
    And Finale.
    And Prelude.
    And Hymnus in emergencies.
    And Paeon when applicable.
    And even sometimes Mambo or Minne.

    Basically, the useless ones are the ones that give +Stats and resistance to Bind and crap. A lot of the BRD songs have their place.
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    Player Laraul's Avatar
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    It drives me nuts that if you accidentally aggro a mob are NEVER going to get away from it. Deodorize should activate spontaneously without slowing you down. It should stick for at least five seconds regardless if you are hit. Why does a mob triggered by aggro never give up. Where as one your are trying to pull stops shortly after it leaves it's spawn radius?
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    Player Wolfe's Avatar
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    Wolfemasters
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    I've always thought (for years) that this spell was pretty useless. By the time you can get far enough away from a mob to cast this spell, you're going to want to put up sneak and invisible so that you don't aggro something else. And by the time you get far enough away from the mob to cast deodorize, it's already outside it's spawn zone anyway.

    In order to make this spell more useful, I think that mobs that aggro by true sight or sound, should actually aggro by smell. It actually makes a lot more sense. If you have sneak and invisible up, how is it that these mobs can STILL detect you? This just makes logical sense. Plus, if SE insists on there being true detection mobs, this can give them one more type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiichi View Post

    Here is my thoughs on making this spell more usefull. Alow Deodorize mask the smell of Blood agrows.
    It does that already.
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    Player Kavik's Avatar
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    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Deodorize

    Lessens chance of being detected by smell. This is blood aggro, this spell does not stop mobs from CHASING you by scent.I have slept crawlers and leeches and various other things and have run well out of change and casted sneak/invis/deod and the mob kept chasing me. As to the prevent's blood aggro, i was doing an assault and due to horriffic planning by the leader, my drg/whm was the only one alive because i had RR, and the rest of the group had no hope of getting up, all we had to do was get to the lamp. This particular assault has lamia, ghosts and skeles in it, several of which were between me and the exit, yes they all aggro low hp and snk. So i casted deoderize snk/invis and took off, still weakened. My weakened happened to wear off right in the middle of about 4 low hp (blood) aggroing mobs. Due to putting deoderize on, nothing aggroed me and i got to the exit and we won.

    Deodorizer
    Flask of deodorizer
    When applied, this powerful deodorant
    neutralizes even the strongest
    of odors.

    Stackable: 12
    Medicine Effects: (Instant, Information Needed)
    Deodorize effect

    There is your item for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    Absorb-CHR is close, but at least you remove stats from a mob who might be able to use it to boost a JA.
    Plus CHR is a mod for Scourge, so it's totally worth using.

    Quote Originally Posted by Francisco View Post
    Elegy says hi.
    And Threnody.
    And Mazurka.
    And Lullaby.
    And Finale.
    And Prelude.
    And Hymnus in emergencies.
    And Paeon when applicable.
    And even sometimes Mambo or Minne.
    And Scherzo.
    And Virelai was an interesting/fun way to deaggro mobs back in the day (use it on a colibri, it will reflect it back to you).
    Even Etudes got used some of the time, even if they aren't so relevant today. +STR for SAMs using Meikyo Shisui, +INT for BLMs doing timed nukes/MBing, +CHR for yourself for a bit of extra m.acc on HNM stuff.
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  7. #17
    Player Urat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyHobo View Post
    +CHR for yourself for a bit of extra m.acc on HNM stuff.
    This is the entire purpose of the Tenuto, with AF3 body and neck you should be full timing double etude on yourself all day erry day. I keep getting bards that literally do nothing but cast elegy in my alliances and it drives me nuts.

    "Why don't I have double minuet?"
    "lol should be using haste"

    "I'm not even gonna argue that, ok wheres my march"
    "one sec" *casts marches*

    "Did you give the mages double ballad?"
    "lol wtf? You think I can do everything here?"

    "Do it"
    "Ok I gave them ballad"

    "Now tenuto yourself and double chr etude so the mobs stop resisting your damn elegy"
    "Screw you don't tell me how to play my job"

    The only songs I have never really used were pastoral and fantasia. Aubude and Capriccio are both excellent songs for the alliance vs beastmasters in dynamis. Operetta sometimes useful against imps if some member was a tard and didn't bring echo drops, in which case they'd get that.

    Not many spells are truly "useless". They're just really REALLY situational, however, when the situation arises that they ARE useful, they're REALLY useful.
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    Player Bubeeky's Avatar
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    deodorize is incredibly useful! have u ever smelled a nasty elvaan that hasn't showered for days....or a galka that works in a stables? deodorize has saved me from that sorta thing time and again, cuz as we all know, tarus smell like lilacs, so we can't have our scent be compromised
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  9. #19
    Player Laciante's Avatar
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    you mean a galka that hasn't showered, or elvaan from the stables. We're the ones who tamed those birds
    and to add, a hume who's been pulling an all-nighter in the smithy or alchemy lab ;P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kavik View Post
    Huh.. never knew that it actually did, can anyone else please confirm? About to go try it out myself if the servers weren't down :P
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