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    Player Kaiichi's Avatar
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    Spell: Deodorize

    The spell in general dose NOT work like its counterparts Sneak and Invisible. It's actual use is to rid the player of agro from monsters that track a player by smell. Because most do not know of its actual effects it goes unused 99% of the time in wich it can be considerd a useless spell. Furthermore, other than Crawlers, dose anyone know witch mobs actually track by smell?

    Here is my thoughs on making this spell more usefull. Alow Deodorize mask the smell of Blood agrows.

    There have been times when a party wipes due to the overpowered undead that pop at night in an area. even after a raise is performed and a cure been given to a player, after the weakness period is over, a player ones again falls into red and is subject to blood agro. As of now there is noreal way of preventing this type of agro from accuring.

    On another note, this would also give thoughs of low maned partys or soloests a higher chance of survivle in surten areas seeing as even a resting high level player with sneak can still be blood agrowed while resting. And I know how inbarising it can be when a lower level mob just happens to get that lucky shot in.
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    Deodorize is most definitely THE most useless spell in FFXI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twille View Post
    Deodorize is most definitely THE most useless spell in FFXI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    Barsleep/Barsleepra.
    The vast majority of bard's spellbook. If it isn't march, minuet, ballad or carol then it's probably never going to be used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catsby View Post
    The vast majority of bard's spellbook. If it isn't march, minuet, ballad or carol then it's probably never going to be used.
    Elegy says hi.
    And Threnody.
    And Mazurka.
    And Lullaby.
    And Finale.
    And Prelude.
    And Hymnus in emergencies.
    And Paeon when applicable.
    And even sometimes Mambo or Minne.

    Basically, the useless ones are the ones that give +Stats and resistance to Bind and crap. A lot of the BRD songs have their place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    Absorb-CHR is close, but at least you remove stats from a mob who might be able to use it to boost a JA.
    Plus CHR is a mod for Scourge, so it's totally worth using.

    Quote Originally Posted by Francisco View Post
    Elegy says hi.
    And Threnody.
    And Mazurka.
    And Lullaby.
    And Finale.
    And Prelude.
    And Hymnus in emergencies.
    And Paeon when applicable.
    And even sometimes Mambo or Minne.
    And Scherzo.
    And Virelai was an interesting/fun way to deaggro mobs back in the day (use it on a colibri, it will reflect it back to you).
    Even Etudes got used some of the time, even if they aren't so relevant today. +STR for SAMs using Meikyo Shisui, +INT for BLMs doing timed nukes/MBing, +CHR for yourself for a bit of extra m.acc on HNM stuff.
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    Nah, I think Absorb-CHR is probably more useless.

    EDIT: Back onto topic though. Deodorize is basically never used, yeah. Since it only affects tracking and not aggro, usually you'll either be too close to the mob (taking hits, getting interrupted, still have aggro) or too far (could be useful, but if you're that far away you probably aren't in any real danger, rendering its use as a matter of convenience).

    On the other hand, though, the OP's assertion that there's no real counter to blood aggro is not quite true, in my experience; while the low HP period after weakness wears off is certainly quite conducive to blood aggro, one can avoid this by staying out of range of the mobs. I've never had trouble with undead mobs blood aggroing me when weakness wears, since they usually don't cover the entire area. Blood aggro range is wide, but not infinite.
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    I always thought Deodorize should prevent blood aggro...

    That said though, to the OP: there are actually a LOT of mobs that track by scent. Orcs are the first that come to mind. Pretty sure I've also lost leeches when running over water. There's lots more; having worked on a lot of the mob pages on wiki, I see Sc on the aggro part quite often.
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    @Kyrial
    Basically I was trying to point out that a lot of new comers, as well as even some veterans don't actually know what tracks by smell. I am sure there are a lot of them, but no one really takes the time to research it. They just throw the spell aside and forget about it. In your case, you do wiki pages, but not everyone does.
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    Probably the biggest issue with understanding and using Deodorize is that it doesn't work to evade detection, but rather to remove detection. To use it, you have to break sight/sound long enough to get the effect off (with stun,bind,sleep?) - I think I've been more successful just running over water, but it's not like I've tried very hard to work out the use of Deodorize
    More proof that it has even been ignored by the dev.s: there's no other JA/Spell (is there even an item?) that provides the effect - like NIN and DNC, pots, etc.
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