Puppetmaster's Asuran Fists <Where?>

[Mizuharu]

PUP doesn't need asuran fists. Pummel and Smite are better on paper.

MNK can keep Asuran. I don't want it.

MNKs have A Fury and Smite. They don't need Asuran Fists either. But they still get the option of having it because they're H2H users... We're H2H users and don't even get this WSNM Trial let alone any other ones.

[Alhanelem]

MNKs have A Fury and Smite. They don't need Asuran Fists either. But they still get the option of having it because they're H2H users... We're H2H users and don't even get this WSNM Trial let alone any other ones.

Again, we don't need it. So what's the point in adding it?

Asuran Fists has always been a MNK thing, there's no reason to give it to anyone else, especially if they don't need it. It's just being bitter about being a have-not.

In a metagame where your usefulness is judged almost solely by the number of triggers you have, adding Asuran Fists does basically nothing for PUP. PUP, and also SMN and a few other jobs, will always be scorned in abyssea because they don't have as many triggers.

[Mizuharu]

Again, we don't need it. So what's the point in adding it?

Asuran Fists has always been a MNK thing, there's no reason to give it to anyone else, especially if they don't need it. It's just being bitter about being a have-not.

In a metagame where your usefulness is judged almost solely by the number of triggers you have, adding Asuran Fists does basically nothing for PUP. PUP, and also SMN and a few other jobs, will always be scorned in abyssea because they don't have as many triggers.

Well then, let me ask you this. If I'm being bitter about PUP not getting Asuran Fists, then what about all the other recent additions to the game? PLD getting Phalanx; a formerly RDM exclusive spell. SCH getting Stoneskin/Blink/Spikes natively. SAMs getting this new "Chainbound" effect this monday. (They already have plenty of ways to self skillchain. Why add another?) Aren't all of these brought about by players "being bitter about being a have-not"?

People say it'd be a waste, but MNKs rarely use this WS unless it's for staggering now a days. For PUPs it'd be the same way. As for that we won't use this, let me ask this also...

How often do you see a COR using Savage Blade? Or a RNG using Decimation/Evisceration?