Cataclysm Farming

[Malacite]

So in the wake of all the craziness with Fell Cleave etc, I was taking a good hard look at Cataclysm as another option. First thing that struck out to me is how much it sucks that BLM can't use this WS, thanks a lot SE.

So I've narrowed it down to either PLD or MNK for the ideal job to do this on, leaning more on PLD for Phalanx and Cures etc. just in case (and A+ skill rating).


The real problem, is what weapon to use. Martial Staff has just shot up to 1 mil on Bismark (along with a bunch of others, way to go jerks. Keep gouging the playerbase) which leaves me with Pluto's staff for the time being, as I don't have a Yama's +1/+2 geared for Dark Magic Damage.


Which would win out though? And is it even worth going for? I've already checked in another thread on BG, and Martial does indeed beat Pluto's due to the massive difference in fTP at 200 and 300.

But does it still win out against Yama +2? Obviously not if you build up a lot of TP beforehand, but Yama +2 does still provide a huge +30% Dark Attack.

[Greatguardian]

I'm not sure why you're asking here when you have access to BG. Did you not like their answer or something? Never mind, rhetorical question.

Sidenote: Blm can get Cata from subjob, MNK and PLD can't use magian staves.

[Korpg]

Don't forget that BLM doesn't need Cataclysm.

You forget what makes BLM so special....

[Malacite]

^ because spells give amber right. :P


And does BLM get it with SJ? Someone really needs to word the wiki entries better - it specifically says main job only.

[Zyeriis]

Cataclysm is only natively available to Paladins, Warriors, Monks, and White Mages. While other jobs can obtain the required 290 Staff skill, they must use one of the aforementioned jobs as their support job in order to gain access to Cataclysm.

Not that the wiki isn't full of garbage information lately but this info has been there for years.

[Raksha]

Don't forget that BLM doesn't need Cataclysm.

And WHM does?

[rog]

^ because spells give amber right. :P

They don't need to. Blm can easily get amber with rock crusher (hits ephemerals for ~1k pretty easily, so one nuke and rock crusher will finish them).

And WHM does?

They have no other way to kill groups of 20 mobs, so yes.

[Raksha]

They have no other way to kill groups of 20 mobs, so yes.

LOL

Also Earth Crusher.

And another thing, how about giving SCH native cataclysm then?

[Malamasala]

I was under the assumption WHM had banishga as well. Not sure what numbers you get up with that, but probably not anything amazing. On the other hand I only reach 1k AOE with Ramuh on SMN so that is definitely a job that needs native Cataclysm WS.

Well, actually it needs all 2 hours moved to normal BP timers, but DRG is the only job that can whine their 2 hour into normal timers. Just hoping SE realize this before 99 so we get a full set of new AOE pacts.

[Seyomeyo]

^ because spells give amber right. :P


And does BLM get it with SJ? Someone really needs to word the wiki entries better - it specifically says main job only.

If you're relying on the amber you get from Cataclysm'ing a bunch of mobs, you're doing it wrong. You only get lights off of mobs you actually target. Therefore, get amber elsewhere, or send somebody else to get it, and there'd be little difference between a BLM or BLU killing a mob with a spell, or your WS'er killing it with cata.....except you're going to run into time chests.