Synergy ruined crafting for me

[annewandering]

i didnt spend years lvling my craft inorder to have to find someone else to help make something

And that is the Gods Honest Truth!

[Shirkan]

I'd first like to thank Felren for making this thread.The topic he/she brings to the table has been on my mind too but Alla being dead and BG full of fools,I decided not to post.

I loved crafting.I loved waking up in the morning,make a coffee and go check my sales and decide what needed to be made.Then I'd buy my mats and crystals,throw on my fav music and relax.Crafting was and still is, so relaxing.It's therapeutic.

Then this Synergy business came along.I always kept it capped..even though I had nothing much to make with Bonecraft.
Synergy stresses me out! Those godam menues drive me insane.Synergy is an unenjoyable experience but I do it because it makes the cash.

I find I even got to close my YouTube music ;/ to help those silly menues open faster.Also I can only Synergy in hometowns,where there is no lag,to maximise my chances.

Don't give up on your main craft.SE will add more content,I believe.I think they added Synergy not only as a time sink but also to encourage more people to level and enjoy crafting.

Mainly it's new level 100 crafters that got hurt with Synergy,like me..but bite the bullet! Synergy is easy to level.

[annewandering]

Its only easy if you have fast fingers and no lag. I have stalled making me another Jeuno warp earring just from dread.

[Godofgods]

The origional idea of synergy when first anouced was a way in which to combined power of crafts. Which isnt a bad idea. But the only way that works is if the syngergy synths are something that requires 61+ of more then one craft. The multitude of synths out not for it are horrible. It basicly makes most crafts worthless. You shouldnt be able to have a single synth done by a normal craft and synergy.

[Cljader1]

You probably never really crafted to make real items did you? Or really even know what this topic is about. This isn't about "failing on upgrading an item" This is about how there were absolutely no synths for dedicated crafters besides through synergy. Of course it is nice to have something new to play with, but at the expense of years and vast amounts of gil? No chance.

"But honestly don't take my word for it. Continue to hate synergy. Less competition will work in my favor. " So you're one of the few people on Phoenix making 100mil a month off synergy? I think not, so plz stop.

I for one LOVES Synergy...I'm a old time Goldsmith that's been crafting for over 9 years, I have 3 characters with lvl 100 crafts and of those 3 character 2 of them have +75 synergy. My in game name is Colliex formerly the best crafter on the seraph server and currently one of the best crafters and synergist on the bismark server, with a little over 100 mil in my personal bank account. Alot of the people crying about synergy are those newly crowned lvl 100 crafters and people who have not even reached lvl 100 in there respected crafts. I for one needed a system to separate myself from the new influx of lvl 100 crafters, who continuously undercut items.

Synergy is the perfect compliment to the crafting system that utilizes the talent of a particular crafter. I'm always on the cutting edge of crafting procedures/innovations and I often find myself the 1st too make extremely rare items and sought after high ticket items. For those who say they just don't want to lvl synergy are crafters who are just plain LAZY. Synergy is far more easier to lvl than a crafting discipline. Alot of crafters that detest this system don't know how synergy works and didn't take the time too learn through tutorials. Furthermore, they fail to push through trail and error to learn the nuances it takes to operate the synergy system and produce HQs.

I admit It does feel good to be on top of the crafting markets where I share the spot with few other extraordinary crafters who had ability and put in the hard work to achieve what I have achieved. The system is working as SE intended, it has created a stratification among the crafters where the more talented and hardworking crafters are few at the top, and the lazy un-knowledgeable crafters are many at the bottom, with good up to date crafters being some at the middle.

To the crafters who complain about synergy, all I have to say is "You need too step your Game Up!" Because there are synergist like myself who put in hardwork, gil and discipline to understand and master the art of synergy. I'm not against new synthesis via crafting only, but I dare you say do away with synergy because you fail to do it or understand it.

[annewandering]

I for one LOVES Synergy...I'm a old time Goldsmith that's been crafting for over 9 years, I have 3 characters with lvl 100 crafts and of those 3 character 2 of them have +75 synergy. My in game name is Colliex formerly the best crafter on the seraph server and currently one of the best crafters and synergist on the bismark server, with a little over 100 mil in my personal bank account. Alot of the people crying about synergy are those newly crowned lvl 100 crafters and people who have not even reached lvl 100 in there respected crafts. I for one needed a system to separate myself from the new influx of lvl 100 crafters, who continuously undercut items.

Synergy is the perfect compliment to the crafting system that utilizes the talent of a particular crafter. I'm always on the cutting edge of crafting procedures/innovations and I often find myself the 1st too make extremely rare items and sought after high ticket items. For those who say they just don't want to lvl synergy are crafters who are just plain LAZY. Synergy is far more easier to lvl than a crafting discipline. Alot of crafters that detest this system don't know how synergy works and didn't take the time too learn through tutorials. Furthermore, they fail to push through trail and error to learn the nuances it takes to operate the synergy system and produce HQs.

I admit It does feel good to be on top of the crafting markets where I share the spot with few other extraordinary crafters who had ability and put in the hard work to achieve what I have achieved. The system is working as SE intended, it has created a stratification among the crafters where the more talented and hardworking crafters are few at the top, and the lazy un-knowledgeable crafters are many at the bottom, with good up to date crafters being some at the middle.

To the crafters who complain about synergy, all I have to say is "You need too step your Game Up!" Because there are synergist like myself who put in hardwork, gil and discipline to understand and master the art of synergy. I'm not against new synthesis via crafting only, but I dare you say do away with synergy because you fail to do it or understand it.

Pft to you. I have leveled synergy a bit. to around 43 or so. I detest it. I have been a WW for years scratching my way to the top and loving every inch of it. All my crafts related to WW are leveled to 60 except gold and that is to 54. I can make any WW synth on the list. Some I havent hq's yet but I will.
My goal with crafting is to make anything I want and be totally self sufficient. This includes the farming because I WANT do it from scratch. Its not so much for gil although I have never lacked for gil for what I wanted, except kraken and that I will earn in the battle.
Get off your sanctimonious synergizing throne and realize some of us hate synergy because we HATE it not because we are lazy bums.

[Alderin]

I don't understand why you're not still making money.. I mean, I only have one high level synth and the rest at a low-mid level. That high lvl craft is Woodworking.

There are quite a few profitable synths that are super cheap to make and sell for big dollars on the AH. Not only that, they sell often.

Perhaps your biggest issue is the synth you chose compared to times as they are today..


However yes I do agree - the way Synergy was executed was poor. And you are right - Crafting or attempting to skill up using the GUI interface is both slow and obnoxious. I give credit to anyone who stuck it out til the end.

I do however agree that crafted gear is definitely no where near comparable to a lot of the sets that are Rare/ex... However that has been the case for quite a long time. Think about gear from Sky - sure not all of it you TP in but for raw stats (especially for WS macros and such) they are 2nd to none.

I believe crafted gear has been outmatched by Rare/Ex or simply Rare pieces of gear - as they should be to an extent. It requires going out and getting it yourself - rather then burning a pile of gil you have been sitting on.

As much as my post probably doesn't sound like I agree with you - I surely do. It would be nice to see the smiths get a few more pieces that are worth the effort.

[annewandering]

I am not sure about all crafts but I know you can make good money off WW. Any time i want a few gil i just gather up a few materials that have collected on my mules and make something. Even if it is just NPC'd to me it is like free gil. I know it really isnt but it FEELS like it A few hq'd elemental staves and I am on my way again. lalalalala. lol.
Seriously if a person just does a little homework he can make gil crafting. If he cant then he needs to do a little more research. Smack synergy but crafting can still make your life comfortable. ^^

[Shirkan]

I for one LOVES Synergy...I'm a old time Goldsmith that's been crafting for over 9 years, I have 3 characters with lvl 100 crafts and of those 3 character 2 of them have +75 synergy. My in game name is Colliex formerly the best crafter on the seraph server and currently one of the best crafters and synergist on the bismark server, with a little over 100 mil in my personal bank account. Alot of the people crying about synergy are those newly crowned lvl 100 crafters and people who have not even reached lvl 100 in there respected crafts. I for one needed a system to separate myself from the new influx of lvl 100 crafters, who continuously undercut items.

Synergy is the perfect compliment to the crafting system that utilizes the talent of a particular crafter. I'm always on the cutting edge of crafting procedures/innovations and I often find myself the 1st too make extremely rare items and sought after high ticket items. For those who say they just don't want to lvl synergy are crafters who are just plain LAZY. Synergy is far more easier to lvl than a crafting discipline. Alot of crafters that detest this system don't know how synergy works and didn't take the time too learn through tutorials. Furthermore, they fail to push through trail and error to learn the nuances it takes to operate the synergy system and produce HQs.

I admit It does feel good to be on top of the crafting markets where I share the spot with few other extraordinary crafters who had ability and put in the hard work to achieve what I have achieved. The system is working as SE intended, it has created a stratification among the crafters where the more talented and hardworking crafters are few at the top, and the lazy un-knowledgeable crafters are many at the bottom, with good up to date crafters being some at the middle.

To the crafters who complain about synergy, all I have to say is "You need too step your Game Up!" Because there are synergist like myself who put in hardwork, gil and discipline to understand and master the art of synergy. I'm not against new synthesis via crafting only, but I dare you say do away with synergy because you fail to do it or understand it.

I leveled all my support crafts on Shirkan and Goldsmithing on another account from the profits I made on Bonecrafting and Bonecraft/Synergy.There is a lot of gil to make.I'm currently also level 72 Smithing on a third Character and I'm very excited about getting it 100.
I must stress the fact that Goldsmithing and Smithing have always gotten the most and best Synergy synths,always!
I don't hate Synergy,it's quiet easy and really requires a lot of AH camping.
As I said before,it's a less enjoyable experience compared to crafting.Synergy and a main 90+ craft is the only way now to make a large income.

[Orenwald]

I'm also saying that you can make them without synergy.

I'm also saying the jug pet synergies weren't designed to nerf crafters, it was to de-nerf BSTs, because if you notice most of the non-synergy new jug pets the synergy recipe is only a few yield lower, and thats to make up for the fact that Fewell costs more than crystals do.