I'm curious about something I've seen stated several times in these mob going white threads. Has the claim system been the same since the game started? I could have sworn it worked differently up until 2008 or so... back when we used to steal claim on NMs by curing a player in the other ally and then having someone do something to gain a ton of hate like invincible. You also used to be able to reclaim a monster you had hate on much the same way... it happened at countless khims and maybe an ixion or two. I know they changed monster hate in 07 or so... I guess around the time they made it so that mobs would no longer wait at the zone to decimate whoever entered the zone next (and the whole anti-MPK thing).