Claim System + Call for Help Code = Win

[rog]

I don't really pin anything, but ok.

And why shouldn't it be possible? It works in irl, so why not in game? Not to mention it also works in basically ll other games, to varying degrees.

[Seriha]

I must've missed that documentary on national geographic where an animal can take one step to the left and make a predator run a huge circle around a rock.

[rog]

I must've missed that documentary on national geographic where an animal can take one step to the left and make a predator run a huge circle around a rock.

Must have. I used to pin my grandmother on the kitchen table all the time.

[Seriha]

Congrats, you ran from an old woman who didn't wanna kill you. Now when it's someone more serious, they'll push the table at you, push it away/overturn it, climb over it, or start throwing things at you.

[rog]

Congrats, you ran from an old woman who didn't wanna kill you. Now when it's someone more serious, they'll push the table at you, push it away/overturn it, climb over it, or start throwing things at you.

Change table to 5 ton boulder, that is too steep to climb over.

Pinning works fine in irl. Maybe not as well as in ffxi, but it certainly works.

[Linh]

Giving up claim could then be achieved by your party/alliance leader through another option in the CFH menu.

QFT.

Stupid 10 character limit.

Still QFT

[Zatias]

QFT.

Stupid 10 character limit.

Still QFT

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.]

I admit I kinda laughed at this but do you have to be such a smartass? =p

Back on topic(ish) pinning does work irl and ingame. The only reason I would take a pinned mob if it was taking too long for the pinner to kill. Maybe instead of a rage system, there can be a claim time limit, sort of like a battlefield? I know, there are flaws with that idea. Just throwing my opinion out there.

[Alhanelem]

Why can't a monster stay claimed until it kills anyone that took action on it and goes idle for a certain amount of time?

Err.... that happens now, except it's an OR where you have the word AND.

Sorry, the claim system needs no changes. Don't fail at winning, and you won't have a problem. If everyone has been defeated, even if they have reraise, if they take action quickly, then they're using zombie tactics (they're not going to survive and are depending on repeated deaths to get to the end of the fight) which are discouraged.

If you liose, you lose. That's it. If a monster goes unclaimed, it's virtually always because you lost. It's the game's way of saying that.

Giving up claim could then be achieved by your party/alliance leader through another option in the CFH menu.

Your party/alliance leader cannot press this button while KO'd- thus a group can even unintentionally monopolize a monster without being able to defeat it.

[Eeek]

Ah, the guy who loves to pin, speed hack, and tells everyone who can't solo something you've claimed to sucks is trying to play the "two wrongs don't make a right" card. We've been over this before on Alla, though. Pinning shouldn't be possible to begin with and SE designing content for (small) parties and enforcing that wish isn't a bad thing. I have no sympathy for those abusing an exploit getting burned in the process of employing it.

Only Alla posters would consider pinning an exploit.

[rog]

Only Alla posters would consider pinning an exploit.

It is an exploit. Anyone who says otherwise is retarded, and wrong.

You might want to invest in a dictionary.