RDM Auto, why the cap?

[Jar]

False. I've barely ever used red since the white and black heads came out, even before hte level cap rise.

It's only good use now is the slight chance of tier IV magic proc. Which will be ruined if it gets tier V.

White AI is not broken, either. It just doesn't operate the way some people would like. Especially in the current state of the game though, you can usually remove your own status effects to avoid the auto doing it to you.

Also BLM AI isn't "broken", I saw that "bug" report. Real BLMs would use drain and aspir whein their HP/MP is low. If you dont want the auto to cast drain after deus ex, use repair / rest /maneuvers. I would be fine with it using aspir too, as long as there was a way to force it to use something else until its MP was lower- I do not like abusing ADD. I would rather keep my automaton up at all times if possible.

hell thinking that you will get your pet to proc also is a dumb idea.... just drop it procing wont mean crap most the time anyway unless you are doing +2 stuff....
It doesnt matter that YOU yourself find the crippling AI of the whm and blm easy to deal
the fact is that the RDM SHOULD get spells like a 90rdm like a whm and blm get spells like a 90 whm and blm.
if your just here to say you wouldnt use is so dont do it i would love to use the rdm because nukes AND heals over endless silence on the immune to silence NM is retarded.

Alover DPS would be alot better with the rdm over the whm if you dont need the cures

and the blm frame lost alot of luster inside abyssea because i will NEVER set magic atma and nuke with my pet over coming BLM and its is a PoS in DPS over the VE and Sharpshot frames w/o atma..

[Alhanelem]

hell thinking that you will get your pet to proc also is a dumb idea.... just drop it procing wont mean crap most the time anyway unless you are doing +2 stuff....

It's about the only thing it's good for. If you give it the higher tier spells,t here will be no reason to use the white or black heads, because the red will be able to do anything.

and the blm frame lost alot of luster inside abyssea

No it didn't. The automaton can achieve an outright ludicrous amount of magic attack and Abyssea only magnifies that. If your event group is in bad need of magic damage, its tier V nukes can stomp those of a real black mage. Additionally, Not everything is in abyssea.

if your just here to say you wouldnt use is so dont do it i would love to use the rdm because nukes AND heals over endless silence on the immune to silence NM is retarded.

Uhm... I hate to tell you this but if your automaton is casting silence and you don't want it to, then you're doing something wrong. You're either using the wrong attachments, or you are commanding it to use enfeebles.

[Drac]

White AI is not broken, either. It just doesn't operate the way some people would like. Especially in the current state of the game though, you can usually remove your own status effects to avoid the auto doing it to you.

Also BLM AI isn't "broken", I saw that "bug" report. Real BLMs would use drain and aspir whein their HP/MP is low. If you dont want the auto to cast drain after deus ex, use repair / rest /maneuvers. I would be fine with it using aspir too, as long as there was a way to force it to use something else until its MP was lower- I do not like abusing ADD. I would rather keep my automaton up at all times if possible.

As a BLM if i could only cast spells every 30s i would not waste my time with drain or aspir, especially on mobs resistant to those spells. It is not working as intended thus it is broken.

As far as whm AI i wouldn't classify it as broken, but i would say that is undesirable. And because the functions of it are undesirable it needs to be reviewed and changed in accordance with a more realistic and desirable set of rules.

[Alhanelem]

It is not working as intended thus it is broken.

It IS working as intended, you just don't agree with how it is implemented. There's a huge difference. Not working the way YOU like it != a bug.

As a blm if I could only cast spells every 30 seconds I would still use up my MP and could not Deactivate and Reactivate myself to refill my MP, so I'd still need to use drain and aspir.

The fact that you can ADD is the only reason that we wouldn't want the automaton to cast drain/aspir. But personally, I avoid doing that.

[Drac]

The difference between a working as intended and not, is that you get stuck with no practical way out. If my maton is not @ 100% health, ADD doesn't apply.

I was never the intention of the dev team to trap our matons in a loop where it would only cast these spells. this is a byproduct of NM design and limitations of AI. Only when you combine these aspects that are independently working do you get something that is NOT working as intended. I'm sure the DEV team did NOT want to put this restriction on us. But because there are far too many factors to consider when designing confrontations some of the smaller details will get overlooked.
Since i don't believe that the confrontations should be changed to match this issue, it is the AI that should be change to avoid this kind of unintended result.

[Jar]

It's about the only thing it's good for. If you give it the higher tier spells,t here will be no reason to use the white or black heads, because the red will be able to do anything.

i read this like 5 times and it doesn't make sense.. not even warranting the reply i gave it..

No it didn't. The automaton can achieve an outright ludicrous amount of magic attack and Abyssea only magnifies that. If your event group is in bad need of magic damage, its tier V nukes can stomp those of a real black mage. Additionally, Not everything is in abyssea.

setting atma that would be put to better use buffing the master and having the auto on RNG or VE frame.... overall DPS makes the BLM worthless inside abyssea and for the most part outside as well because of the new weaponskill RNG got. if these is some magical NM i dont know about that is to dangerous for me to go in and punch it than id still opt for the RNG frame winning because of the defense down on Armor shatterer

Uhm... I hate to tell you this but if your automaton is casting silence and you don't want it to, then you're doing something wrong. You're either using the wrong attachments, or you are commanding it to use enfeebles.

If a monster has the other debuffs on it and you dont need cure or regen it will cast silence and silence is high on the debuff priority so it happens ALOT...

[Alhanelem]

i read this like 5 times and it doesn't make sense.. not even warranting the reply i gave it..

Then, no offense- but you need to take a crash course in English. It makes perfect sense: If the red head got tier V nukes (since it knows all tier IV already) and cure VI, there would be absolutely no reason to use the white or black heads- The only advantage to them would be a slightly higher skill level.

In short, red head learning the next tier of nuke and cure means white and black heads are obsolete.

setting atma that would be put to better use buffing the master and having the auto on RNG or VE frame....

Setting atma that you need to help your group with something they need... well, there's no reason not to do it. I remember the early days of PUP and everyone was begging for more pet gear because they wanted the pet to do everything, it was all about the pet pet pet pet pet. Now you're complaining that someone suggests that they set up atma to focus the pet. The PUP community really confuses me sometimes...
There are many situations that call for many different things, and you're being naive if you think the only valid way to play is by stacking DD atma so the master can pump out WS, something that any random DD can do. Don't get me wrong, I love big smites and Shatterers as much as the next guy, but you need to wise up and realize that sometimes the situation calls for something different. That's supposed to be one of PUP's strengths- flexibility.

[Telford]

Then, no offense- but you need to take a crash course in English. It makes perfect sense: If the red head got tier V nukes (since it knows all tier IV already) and cure VI, there would be absolutely no reason to use the white or black heads- The only advantage to them would be a slightly higher skill level.

Stormwaker only gets access to tire III nukes.

Stormwaker was a nice combo of healing, enfeebling, melee and moderate magical damage to make up for all the Magic Mortars that get past you. At 75 I would often use it when I soloed easy stuff or did campaign, it kept me alive, didn't act like an idiot casting -na's, nuked better than a rdm, and didn't spam aspir and drain because it was slightly out of hp/mp. But at 90 tire III nukes don't cut it.

It should get tire IV nukes, but not cure V, leave that to the whm's/soulsoother, and I do like the idea of giving it tier II enfeebles (and Dia/Bio III) making it the go to enfeebling head.

I also feel bad for poor harlequin, left to collect dust for so long, but that's another topic.

[Alhanelem]

I would be in complete support of changes that gave those heads/frames more uniqueness- just not those that would make it directly compete with the function of the other heads. My bad on the nukes... I really haven't used it in a long time.

I actually have a few special uses for harlequin. It still feels like the best frame to use for the solo ENM60- it's tougher than the mage frame but can still give me cures- just enough for the fight. It's almost ironic that outside of not having the shield, it feels more like a PLD than the valoredge frame actually should.

That said, I've always looked at harlequin as the starter frame- something that's supposed to be abandoned once you have access to the later stuff.

[Jar]

Then, no offense- but you need to take a crash course in English. It makes perfect sense: If the red head got tier V nukes (since it knows all tier IV already) and cure VI, there would be absolutely no reason to use the white or black heads- The only advantage to them would be a slightly higher skill level.

In short, red head learning the next tier of nuke and cure means white and black heads are obsolete.

Setting atma that you need to help your group with something they need... well, there's no reason not to do it. I remember the early days of PUP and everyone was begging for more pet gear because they wanted the pet to do everything, it was all about the pet pet pet pet pet. Now you're complaining that someone suggests that they set up atma to focus the pet. The PUP community really confuses me sometimes...
There are many situations that call for many different things, and you're being naive if you think the only valid way to play is by stacking DD atma so the master can pump out WS, something that any random DD can do. Don't get me wrong, I love big smites and Shatterers as much as the next guy, but you need to wise up and realize that sometimes the situation calls for something different. That's supposed to be one of PUP's strengths- flexibility.

Yeah you didnt make sense because you where wrong i see that now..


also telling that there are situations that you need to use the blm head doesnt make sense because i states that there are zero cases that the blm head with mages atma will out perform DD atma + RNG or VE frame..

nothing hits hard enough to make you pull back.. and even than RNG pulls back just as good and does more damage

if this is just a you like the blm head thing i dont care, but please dont state things that are false.