Melee WHM's Unite!

[Crimson_Slasher]

Okay now thats exactly what i was looking to see, my imaginary set vs a real set, there are a lot of similarities which makes me feel i grasp the situation and information more solidly. I do notice it only offers 32 str which is a reasonable goal with a boost str build getting you around 20~ more. I do find it odd no brutal earing in the ear slot but honestly ive always been aware that when dual wielding it offers less improvement. What with it being a 6 hit ws +1 for offhand, leaves only 1 chance of another strike. On further consideration now too the procillio belt prevents all of the double attack offered by the brutal earing so that -would- be pretty silly, Looks solid though. Hope they start coming out with some other bodies for whm (and rdm) melee soon though cause im not going to lie, the selection is pretty poor. But thankyou for the set to compare with! It shows that i do have a grasp of what is needed, and where improvement can be made off my hypothetical set.

[Economizer]

Found a most interesting video today, one of a 90WHM/NIN solo of Sedna. I'm still not sure I'm satisfied with Dagan though...

[Economizer]

Necroposting to bring news from the latest update!

Nabu's Jubbah

DEF:54 HP+5% MP+5% STR+10 INT+10 MND+10 CHR+10 "Double Attack"+3% Haste+4%

Decent piece for that melee, but for all you Kraken Club users that Double Attack is a mixed buff. Still, pretty decent if you're trying to have a mix of STR/MND and having Haste, and great for those Dagan users (when you really, really try hard to make Dagan useful...).

Nabu's Dastanas

DEF:28 STR+7 AGI+7 Accuracy+8 Attack+8 Magic Accuracy+5 Healing magic skill +12

Melee macro piece... let's compare it to our favorite holdout, the AF1+1 gloves:

Healer's Mitts +1

DEF:14 MP+15 STR+7 MND+7 Healing magic skill +15 Enmity-4

So basically, the new gloves are debatable, mostly an upgrade, situationally probably a sidegrade? SE why couldn't you just put MND+7 on those gloves and finally kill these things? Ah well, guess I'll still have to lobby for AF1+2 over and over...

Sublime Breastplate

DEF:60 STR+14 MND+14 Accuracy+13 Divine magic skill +10 Healing magic skill +10

Still can't see the model on that perfectly, but the only things this baby is missing for pure perfection is CritRate/Attack/Haste/Refresh.

This thing really is sublime. Do want. And it is a WHM only item, so they did design this for us. Do we have to fight Neo-Shen for this thing?

[Frost]

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Nabu's Dastanas

DEF:28 STR+7 AGI+7 Accuracy+8 Attack+8 Magic Accuracy+5 Healing magic skill +12

Melee macro piece... let's compare it to our favorite holdout, the AF1+1 gloves:

Healer's Mitts +1

DEF:14 MP+15 STR+7 MND+7 Healing magic skill +15 Enmity-4

Why does everyone always forget Iuvenalis Mittens

I fear the sublime breastplate will look like the olld Holy Breastplate: Pics here

[Economizer]

Why does everyone always forget Iuvenalis Mittens

Because Blessed Mitts +1 have more Haste and Healer's Mitts +1 are better to heal in. 6% Haste on the Iuvenalis Mittens and it would save the inventory slot for whatever sidegrade on healing magic there is so we can use that instead.

[Frost]

Because Blessed Mitts +1 have more Haste and Healer's Mitts +1 are better to heal in. 6% Haste on the Iuvenalis Mittens and it would save the inventory slot for whatever sidegrade on healing magic there is so we can use that instead.

I mean in the sense of Melee Whm, as this thread is focused on. The Iuvenalis Mittens can be used as both TP and WS hands was my point. I have no issue capping out haste in either case, so having blessed mitts +1 is moot in that regard; but for melee the 7 str can make a difference more than 1 haste that's not even being used.

As far as healing goes, I dont' usually need to cure 'enough' to require that much haste, usually Augur's mitts are used in my sets, 4% potency and 7 mind iirc outdoes 15 skill, but I might be wrong on that. I play a little different, focusing more on casting time down than recast, but I get the full potency on all my cures that way.

What are your general melee/WS sets? Just out of curiosity.

[SpankWustler]

Nabu's Dastanas

DEF:28 STR+7 AGI+7 Accuracy+8 Attack+8 Magic Accuracy+5 Healing magic skill +12

I'd like to meet the man who decided that Nabu's Dastanas were in desperate need of AGI +7 and Magic Accuracy +5 given the other bonuses on the item. Almost anything else would have been better for every job on the piece than that one-two punch.

I would look deep into his eyes. I would see a reflection of the universe not beholding to logical things such as the laws of physics, a swirling pit of fire and ice that met and never formed steam. I would see poor souls tossed between these two extremes, made without skin and grasping their internals in their hands, responding to their misery by offering opinions on My Teenage Dream Ended in pig-latin.

He would say to me, "Well, I thought Bards would enjoy a weapon skill piece for Extenerator with Magic Accuracy to help the additional effect land."

[Caketime]

That breastplate looks nice, but I'm willing to bet acquiring it will be the opposite of fun.

[Mirage]

dat breast
plate

[Caketime]

Iuvenalis Mitts are for hammer swinging anyway, not casting.