Make Quietus a critical hit WS!

[Cruentus]

You know, I have to wonder if people even know how to gear for Quietus. I mean, 40% each on STR & MND means you don't gear for Quietus like you do for, say, Guillotine. Hasn't anyone tried using both STR and MND in their WS set for this?

[Atomic_Skull]

You know, I have to wonder if people even know how to gear for Quietus. I mean, 40% each on STR & MND means you don't gear for Quietus like you do for, say, Guillotine. Hasn't anyone tried using both STR and MND in their WS set for this?

It doesn't matter because STR and MND both have the exact same effect on the WS secondary modifier, only STR also helps your fSTR and Attack and MND does not. Therefore in equal amounts STR is always better than MND.

[Cruentus]

It doesn't matter because STR and MND both have the exact same effect on the WS secondary modifier, only STR also helps your fSTR and Attack and MND does not. Therefore in equal amounts STR is always better than MND.

Sounds to me like someone hasn't actually attempted it.

[Atomic_Skull]

Sounds to me like someone hasn't actually attempted it.

Mathematics does not lie. I already know that STR is better than MND for Quietus so why would I need to test it when I already know what the answer is?

[Jar]

You know, I have to wonder if people even know how to gear for Quietus. I mean, 40% each on STR & MND means you don't gear for Quietus like you do for, say, Guillotine. Hasn't anyone tried using both STR and MND in their WS set for this?

I'd love to know how needing mnd attack and STR is different than needing mnd attack and STR

at 100% TP this is only 10% def ignore meaning that you still need some attack.. ( say.. 765ish on avrg) sure you can stack a bit more STr but most gear DRK gets has both attack and STR/(lolmnd)

the FTP of 3 is what makes the weaponskill crap.

guil is 0.875 hitting 4 times meaning its base damage before WSC is higher and even than the WSC on guil is 25%*2

the 40%*2 WSC doesnt really help too its the only empy that i know that doesnt get a flat 60% WSC

the 15% extra str mnd WSC hardly makes it better than guil if its even better at all and with DRK being able to cap attack so easy only Cratio really put a smack on WS damage (that and no Crit to get a mindless +30~100% damage too -_-)



On another note Q gets bad skilchain properties for an empy being able to ONLY do darkness while torcleaver can do light and drkness

[Rezeak]

You know, I have to wonder if people even know how to gear for Quietus. I mean, 40% each on STR & MND means you don't gear for Quietus like you do for, say, Guillotine. Hasn't anyone tried using both STR and MND in their WS set for this?

OK now i know your pissed at pple and all that but wtf are you on about.
Gearing for STR and MND over Just STR means nothing... there really no peices you'd swap out for DRK
For example.

Twilight body and head ... already are the best MND peices
Hands... find a mind or str and mnd that beats 12 STR(hefloc)
Legs.. 12 STR 15 acc / atk from bale+2 ... nothing gets close
feet ... 9 STR/MND it's all there anyway
Rings.... Raja or 7STR if ya switch to a 7 MND ring you'll lose attack
Earring ... Brutal/Bale
Ammo ... not really many choices anyway
Back ... Atheling mantle +3% Da
Waist and Neck is the Gorgets/Elemental belt for WS mod.

As for having a go at the math i'd say yea you have to test it sometimes but in this case it's really simple stuff.

If your gonna reply to this plz put forward what gear would you use.
(btw i havn't considered the recently added gear in this)

[Cruentus]

OK now i know your pissed at pple and all that but wtf are you on about.
Gearing for STR and MND over Just STR means nothing... there really no peices you'd swap out for DRK
For example.

Twilight body and head ... already are the best MND peices
Hands... find a mind or str and mnd that beats 12 STR(hefloc)
Legs.. 12 STR 15 acc / atk from bale+2 ... nothing gets close
feet ... 9 STR/MND it's all there anyway
Rings.... Raja or 7STR if ya switch to a 7 MND ring you'll lose attack
Earring ... Brutal/Bale
Ammo ... not really many choices anyway
Back ... Atheling mantle +3% Da
Waist and Neck is the Gorgets/Elemental belt for WS mod.

As for having a go at the math i'd say yea you have to test it sometimes but in this case it's really simple stuff.

If your gonna reply to this plz put forward what gear would you use.
(btw i havn't considered the recently added gear in this)

I honestly haven't put together a WS set. I may never get around to that. I'm sick of all the ridiculous grinding in this game. Just let me get the storylines done, and I'll call it good.

[vedder]

thats basicalliy what im gettn from op too atomic, and whats funny is i chose cala over redemption based on looks, and was super happy when it ended up being easier to get and better XD

i currently use rr/apoc/a&o an tor is avg around 1800-2600 with spikes up to 5k

on /thf i did 8k to either orthus or amarok dont recall, was apoc/rr/gc on that one

working on /mnk next its 25atm and thenill see about rl/rr/gh (thats the suggested atma setup if i recall plz correct me)

ive got /sch but havnt tried it out just yet but figured id wanna give it a go

when im not 2boxn my whm i use mc/vissic/apoc an was actually surprised how effective it was

[Dart]

honestly jar i liked your idea. Anything to boost our ws phase and i'd be happy. I just love crit based ws personally D:

also I'd seriously recommend atma of the scorpion queen. 6 hit completely blows any minor boost in ws that another atma gives. Add in the 10% crit rate to further push our melee dmg higher is pretty crazy.

With SQ/RR/AoA i'm averaging 1500-2500 (there are spikes but these numbers are very consistent)

and its a 6 hit with capped haste and I'm making use of all the attack+ that drk can equip.