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    Player Natenn's Avatar
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    No your still not right, opinions are opinions. Facts are facts. I'll let you figure it out there. And Arlan calm down its just a game, don't need to post an essay every time like you are 100% right and anyone who is opposed is 100% wrong. Play the game since its obviously the greatest thing ever to you it seems, and your friend was never 75? I dont think he even made it to endgame to have an opinion about being bad or good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    No your still not right, opinions are opinions. Facts are facts. I'll let you figure it out there. And Arlan calm down its just a game, don't need to post an essay every time like you are 100% right and anyone who is opposed is 100% wrong. Play the game since its obviously the greatest thing ever to you it seems, and your friend was never 75? I dont think he even made it to endgame to have an opinion about being bad or good.
    Because he never could put the time back in the days to get the lvl75, because the grind fest was too much back then where he never got the chance to experience endgame or contents, he quit the game.

    A gamer can tell if he/she likes the game if the game offers content that he/she enjoys.
    FFXi didn't have much contents back in the days beause most contents where endgames and missions where you had to be level cap in order to participate. The leveling up method back then was a grind fest on exp only with limited things to do at low levels. It took way to long to level for any players to experience the game. The time you start experiencing is the time when u reach level cap and start having more contents/options open to experience.

    Back then, content was not open or accessible for lower levels and grinding was heavy in time to invest.
    So my friend has an opinion that is valid based on his experiencing as a gamer. If he didn't like the game at all because He didn't have so much RL time to invest just to be able to experience contents that the game provided, then he has the right to dislike the game and say the game was bad. Only things he experienced was grinding exp and small quests and a little bit rank missions. Ultimatly thats his opinion if he doesnt like the game and so if he thinks the game is bad then thats understandable.

    You can play a game and tell if you like it based on contents it provides and gameplay. You don't have to reach lvl cap to do endgames to have an opinion if the game is bad or good. Why play a game if the game is not worth even playing based on how much limited time the individual has to invest in JUST to GRIND all day/month/year just to get access on the main contents the game provides? (Note: Im talking about before WotG and Abyssea and level sync)

    FACT IS: Gamers who play games want to have fun on their own schedule and be able to play with their friends online in an MMO environment for story/Adventures/progression/explorations.

    Fact is: My friend (the one who quit) wanted to play ffxi for that very reason, but instead, the game happened to give him nothing but Heavy GRINDING and a little explorations and a little progression, with very little story, (Rank3 and quests) and Nothing else to do but chitchat in LS. He thinks the game sucks because instead of playing the game as the means of enjoyments, he played it as means of just grinding. And his level was low so we wanted him to lvl to cap so he can start experiencing full story missions, full explorations in all valadiel, full endgame contents, things he did not have a chance to experience unfortunately.

    The Fact is: You Think you enjoy competitions but yet, You don't because you claim it so, and yet, you still have not answered me my questions before this Post I made.

    This thread should be closed cause it is clear nobody finds this thread interesting anymore...

    Natten, Arlan, and Sureal seems to be the only ones who really even post anymore in this thread.
    And so far, this thread fails.
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    5. Gamers plays for challenging Elements, and Wants more Enjoyable contents.
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