World spawning HNM

[Ravenmore]

What nat is asking for is the greatest level of entitlement. I lost all respect for many people camping ground a long time ago. Many of these people are also the ones complaining about how the new dyna works, cause now they can't control other players. THAT is all it comes down too. Why then did people leave HNM LSs as soon as it was found you did't need them anymore people in HNM ls were not all your friend and most for out for them selfs. They would get everything the wanted and leave of if they were leaders get everything they wanted and break the shell. World spawns with high respawn timers breads this and if any one is too naive to see it well then the get what they get.

ToAU beastman king were never camp and kill once in a great moon for some one working on mystic, that some one might had to have merc. Jermy was never camped and had the same 24 hour repop, same goes for vetra. You know why these HNM were not camp they drop nothing that HNM leaders could use to control the minons with. This is why only a very small handful of people want 24 hour world spawn NMs back and why 99% of the player base is happy its gone. How many people had to buy items off HNM LSs that the LSs were maxed out on already.

The only thing people are upset with with the way kings work now is the low drop rate on HQ pop items and that the NQ lost thier BB items. If they add the BB items back to the NQ half the people complaining would be happy and the other half would have more chances of picking up a free HQ pop.

The devs need to see that only the very few surport this so they don't get it in thier heads that people really want this.

[Anewie]

What nat is asking for is the greatest level of entitlement. I lost all respect for many people camping ground a long time ago. Many of these people are also the ones complaining about how the new dyna works, cause now they can't control other players. THAT is all it comes down too. Why then did people leave HNM LSs as soon as it was found you did't need them anymore people in HNM ls were not all your friend and most for out for them selfs. They would get everything the wanted and leave of if they were leaders get everything they wanted and break the shell. World spawns with high respawn timers breads this and if any one is too naive to see it well then the get what they get.

ToAU beastman king were never camp and kill once in a great moon for some one working on mystic, that some one might had to have merc. Jermy was never camped and had the same 24 hour repop, same goes for vetra. You know why these HNM were not camp they drop nothing that HNM leaders could use to control the minons with. This is why only a very small handful of people want 24 hour world spawn NMs back and why 99% of the player base is happy its gone. How many people had to buy items off HNM LSs that the LSs were maxed out on already.

The only thing people are upset with with the way kings work now is the low drop rate on HQ pop items and that the NQ lost thier BB items. If they add the BB items back to the NQ half the people complaining would be happy and the other half would have more chances of picking up a free HQ pop.

The devs need to see that only the very few surport this so they don't get it in thier heads that people really want this.

Where do you get the notion "very few support this"? The same 4-5 people replying? Why dont u try making a poll like the ones on the other community sites. Beause according to those (which are MORE open and post friendly than this forum) 1 in every 3-4 people do want some form of new world NM/HNM. Using this forum as a way to speak for the entire community is a flawed notion because quite a few people don't like the rules of these forums and don't post. I'd like to know where you get this evidence so VERY few support it? Besides posters in a thread, which make up no more like 7-10 different people at most?

Or are you just stating things without factual evidence? Heres a fact check for you. You don't speak for the community and if we are going to claim something, we should let the devs do the investigating. Saying very few like this comment is an overstatement.

As the two previously stated before you, people aren't against world spawns and items that dropped from like khim or cerbw were still heavily camped and fun. Those were trophy items and something like that is as far as it should go. They did this before with kings/einherjar, and everyone was happy to an extent. The game is easier now and you only need a part of 6-10 to ace chambers. It didnt stop people from doing kings or hnm at 85. That only stopped at 90.

[Ravenmore]

Those NMs you sbrought up drop craft items for high demand HQ items so no they were not camped for fun. hydra was never camp since it drop nothing of any value. Why did we get pop kings, cause the player base kept asking for it. Thats the proof right there.

[Arlan]

For what 5 mins if you took it slow lol. So 5mins out of 3 hours was fun, wow you really enjoyed that.

Ravenmore has an excellent point.

Also, like I said before:
Gamers don't like to waste time playing games.
Gamers like to put time to enjoy playing games.
Gamers want to progress in games they put their time/effort in.

Your not a gamer if you just want something to waste your time in.
Gamers want to game to have fun.
People have fun seeing progressions and having access to contents that are enjoyable.

I'm not telling you "What style" of game you have to like to be a gamer,
I'm not telling you "You must like this content in order to be a gamer" either,

I'm telling you why I disagree with the OP because I'm a gamer like majority of players who long on to play with their friends, and I want to game when I want to game. I don't wont a content that I am excluded in because I have to play on the game's schedule. I wana be able to play on my own schedule with my friends, and I know so many people do too that is why they dislike this useless thread and the OP who posted it.

Btw, You sound like your the nice guy but in reality, your just as deluded as the OP, Anewie.
This game is made for the majority, not for the minority.
Majority are gamers who want to play video games on their free time with friends, they don't want to play this game as another JOB or another Real life.

People play games to get their heads out of the Real world and just enjoy a form of entertainment with others.
Games are not made to be your 2nd Life, they are made for players to "PLAY" for "FUN".

If your not a gamer, go waste your time doing something else.

[Octaviane]

Real gamers they dont see claiming a HNM as content. You may not had used a bot but thier most likly was one in your LS. Ground HNM ls was the biggest scam in the game next to dyna only LSs.If every single one of the people that enjoyed camping HNM quit the game we wouldn't loss anything of value.For every 1 player that like it there was 100 that wouldn't go near HNM.

Finally. A statement I can completely agree with. Thank you Ravenmore. I like that I might now have a real chance to go play with Faf/Nidhogg/Behemoth/Turtle etc without having to sign over my real life to do so to some scambag HNMls.

[Natenn]

Im asking for something that results in victory over competition, thats the thrill "my kind" of ppl are looking for. The only thing that provided that to date were HNM. Theres no glory to be found in XI atm, nothing is that hard to be proud about when you complete a goal with the exception of relics which is nowhere near what it use to mean. How easy it to obtain twilight gear/abyssea drops? An idiot could get them with little to no effort? Heck i solo 80 Briareus helms in under 2 weeks combined for Kanagi/Almace(got help last 20 to finish faster). Ppl defend abyssea for 2 main reason: 1. Its easy to exp & 2. little is required to reap the big rewards. Point out something in game thats actually difficult and has reward enough to go through the hassle of doing it.

[Natenn]

Also Ram the 99%(which i doubt) player base is whats left, if HNM were around that 99% would go back to the original 50%ish or less. Like i said, servers were /shutdown due to lack of ppl.

[Ravenmore]

Really the thrill of that. People love out claiming people so much thats why they mkade bots. People quit cause they got tired of sitting in a camp for 3 hours a day for a chance. X-play, game mags, game shop employees would bash FF11 for the very system you want back.So that right there kill off many player that might have given the game a try but seen they would make little progress. Out claiming is all you had the mobs were weak anyone that could listen and not get hate from behind them could kill them. Even the hard HNM no one did them since nothing drop of value. It still comes around to your mad that you can nolonger control people. Most HNM lses have died, not because people quit the game but they were sick of LSes ruling thier in game time and now they don't need them.

[Natenn]

I'm not mad, i think you are with long drawn out posts putting me down. Wheres the Xplay thing at? On youtube? Not saying i don't believe you but i wanna see it.

[Azagthoth]

Natenn, it's pretty clear from your posts that you don't care about the "thrill" of the claim either. You just want the game to go back where you could play the game for 10 minutes and make millions of gil for killing an easy mob.

You're right about one thing though. The world is full of lazy people; therefore, I'm sure quite a few people would return.