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    If they do add a Spawn Type HNM 24-74hours repop, then They better make a 3-4 people battle field type event for me to be able to get the same drops that the HNM would drop then.

    Make the drop rates the same as the HNM, but only difference is, you get ACCESS to a Key Item to enter the Battle field once per 24hours. instead of waiting for some HNM to pop once every 24hours.

    That way those who wana camp HNM + do Battle field for more chance at the items can. And those who dont have time for the HNM can just stick with the battle fields and do them with friends.

    PROBLEM SOLVED.
    But making HNMs get exclusive gear for those who have time to waste is Bull..
    I don't have time to participate in a HNM LS or some crap like that.
    I wana enjoy game with friends, not be told to log on because an NM has poped.. No thanks.
    Those days are over and im happy for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlan View Post
    If they do add a Spawn Type HNM 24-74hours repop, then They better make a 3-4 people battle field type event for me to be able to get the same drops that the HNM would drop then.

    Make the drop rates the same as the HNM, but only difference is, you get ACCESS to a Key Item to enter the Battle field once per 24hours. instead of waiting for some HNM to pop once every 24hours.

    That way those who wana camp HNM + do Battle field for more chance at the items can. And those who dont have time for the HNM can just stick with the battle fields and do them with friends.

    PROBLEM SOLVED.
    But making HNMs get exclusive gear for those who have time to waste is Bull..
    I don't have time to participate in a HNM LS or some crap like that.
    I wana enjoy game with friends, not be told to log on because an NM has poped.. No thanks.
    Those days are over and im happy for now.
    Me and you are completely different players and I completely agree with you. I understand where Natenn is coming from but I also don't have the time to camp stuff a lot and if I ever come back to game, i'd like to adjust my playtime to my interests. If I wanna camp a Trophy mob to feel accomplished, whether it's for the trophy drop, the exclusivity of the mob or the rush of the fight/claim, thats the way I likeed to play occasionally and there absolutley nothing wrong with that.

    Whats "wrong" is when I want the game to revolve around my issues and playtime, which is stupid. News flash, everyone has a different schedule and interests. It doesnt make someone a botter, a no lifer (although they might be a both) and it also doesnt make someone a noob or unworthy(although they might be both..)

    Me personally, I never understood why certain players don't enjoy exclusive content. I'll never understand why everyone wants to be the same and have the same stuff. I only ever felt any personal accomplishment in game when I did salvage or HNM. That doesn't make me a loser either.

    I did enjoy limbus, dynamis, nyzul. Those were fun and entertaining to me but the reason I quit game was simply because a certain aspect of the game is now gone. Is it a shallow aspect? You might think so and that's okay. But its what I enjoyed doing in ffxi among many other things and 8 years in, id say ive grown a lot as a gamer.

    I've never been the player who says "haha i got your hnm drops! Im superior! Ull never beat me!". The fun from HNMs came from the accomplishing feeling. That to me, was "fun". When I first got 75, and everyone was in aery, i couldnt get into a king ls. This was wayyy back in the day. I think like in 2003-2004. That was not fun to me being left out. By time King bodies got into einherjar.. I was already in a hnmls. We didn't win claim much but we made progress. My point is, I was very happy king bodies were made elsewhere and that's how it should be with hnm drops. Gaiters/Ridill/Dring should have already been in odins chamber imo.

    Although I think some content should be exclusive, the value of the availability of the rewards needs to be balanced in such a way that we can have it both ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anewie View Post
    Me and you are completely different players and I completely agree with you. I understand where Natenn is coming from but I also don't have the time to camp stuff a lot and if I ever come back to game, i'd like to adjust my playtime to my interests. If I wanna camp a Trophy mob to feel accomplished, whether it's for the trophy drop, the exclusivity of the mob or the rush of the fight/claim, thats the way I likeed to play occasionally and there absolutley nothing wrong with that.

    Whats "wrong" is when I want the game to revolve around my issues and playtime, which is stupid. News flash, everyone has a different schedule and interests. It doesnt make someone a botter, a no lifer (although they might be a both) and it also doesnt make someone a noob or unworthy(although they might be both..)

    Me personally, I never understood why certain players don't enjoy exclusive content. I'll never understand why everyone wants to be the same and have the same stuff. I only ever felt any personal accomplishment in game when I did salvage or HNM. That doesn't make me a loser either.

    I did enjoy limbus, dynamis, nyzul. Those were fun and entertaining to me but the reason I quit game was simply because a certain aspect of the game is now gone. Is it a shallow aspect? You might think so and that's okay. But its what I enjoyed doing in ffxi among many other things and 8 years in, id say ive grown a lot as a gamer.

    I've never been the player who says "haha i got your hnm drops! Im superior! Ull never beat me!". The fun from HNMs came from the accomplishing feeling. That to me, was "fun". When I first got 75, and everyone was in aery, i couldnt get into a king ls. This was wayyy back in the day. I think like in 2003-2004. That was not fun to me being left out. By time King bodies got into einherjar.. I was already in a hnmls. We didn't win claim much but we made progress. My point is, I was very happy king bodies were made elsewhere and that's how it should be with hnm drops. Gaiters/Ridill/Dring should have already been in odins chamber imo.

    Although I think some content should be exclusive, the value of the availability of the rewards needs to be balanced in such a way that we can have it both ways.
    My Idea is perfect for your type of play style and Mine.
    But if you want an exclusive trophy from out claiming an NM that respawns every 24-74 hours then that trophy needs to be a Mog house kinda Trophy where u can put it on for decor or something to show how you claimed the HNM in order to obtain the item that extra bonus item. Maybe it could be a Statue of the HNM you camped? Something like that for show off but, Not something that is a gear that is very valuable and epic where a lot of people like me also want it badly but cannot afford time to get it and will not experience it due to this limitation.

    I am against this mainly because I want to also enjoy contents that I would like to participate and get a good chance in getting things from them. I feel accomplishment when I get things done and my character improves in every aspect when I log in for the day. I don't feel like im wasting time and that is the feeling I like when it comes down to Abyssea Pop NMs for seals etc.

    You may not like this game right now, But I LOVE IT waaaaaay more than I did before.
    This is why I discourage any Old HNM system where exclusive epic gear comes in and I will never get the chance to get the item I want from them.
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    Last edited by Arlan; 06-01-2011 at 08:21 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlan View Post
    If they do add a Spawn Type HNM 24-74hours repop, then They better make a 3-4 people battle field type event for me to be able to get the same drops that the HNM would drop then.

    Make the drop rates the same as the HNM, but only difference is, you get ACCESS to a Key Item to enter the Battle field once per 24hours. instead of waiting for some HNM to pop once every 24hours.

    That way those who wana camp HNM + do Battle field for more chance at the items can. And those who dont have time for the HNM can just stick with the battle fields and do them with friends.

    PROBLEM SOLVED.
    But making HNMs get exclusive gear for those who have time to waste is Bull..
    I don't have time to participate in a HNM LS or some crap like that.
    I wana enjoy game with friends, not be told to log on because an NM has poped.. No thanks.
    Those days are over and im happy for now.
    Like I said above, The game should be accessible and enjoyable for all players to enjoy.
    The game shouldn't be only accessible for people like you who can afford all the time in the world to play a video game. The game shouldn't be a chore, it should be fun.

    It is not fun waiting 24-74 hours for an NM to respawn cause I have RL schedules that cannot always meet with NM's pop time. And if I do, a lot of people who also want the item, will want to try to claim same as I do. POINTLESS and Boring.
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    1. True Gamers plays to have fun.
    2. True Gamers don't play to waste time.
    3. True Gamers Aren't wasting time if they enjoy the contents they play while progressing.
    4. Gamers Love to see progression based on time/effort they put into challenges.
    5. Gamers plays for challenging Elements, and Wants more Enjoyable contents.
    6. Gamers don't play for Time Sink Elements, and Don't want A game to be a Chore!
    All Gamers Unite!