World spawning HNM

[Anewie]

This is actually incorrect.
There were some programs that probably just weren't on your server. There was one in particular, it displayed an LS message when stuff would pop, saying what the mob was and what zone it was in, AND it would give you an arrow showing you which direction it was from you, and this all happened immediately when it spawned. If that didn't give you a bigger advantage over anyone and make you get claims 99% of the time, you were afk.



DI is about the easiest mob in the game to kite. If you ever fought it you would probably know this.

Lmao, cause @ +250 movement speed, it was just so easy for ppl to kite. This is complete bs and you and Nyn are trolling.

And what was the name of this supposed program that would magically know what a complete other zone has up? Or did you mean a person in a zone standing at a deathspot and being able to call out pop? with this program having the arrow or w.e point out? I'm gonna clarify this on bg because it was my understanding there was a range limit on this program. I knew spot scanners and they still needed widescan. They would say the print moved, but they didn't know where it popped.

If you're saying theres a program that can tell you a mob is up from any zone, i'm def calling bs on you. It's not possible for a program in xx zone to know what is up and where in another xx zone and saying DI was kiteable, lol.

Ixion runs at +75-250% movement speed with addition effects of en-bind and en-gravity. Mind telling me how he was so kiteable if you cannot outrun him, elegy and slow are basically pointless (he attacks fast) and has a high proc rate on en bind/gravity? Please get back to me on this.

[Nynja]

Yeah, were the trolls, yet the Headlong Belt sam is, as you so eloquently defined as:

ud know they are not only very good people but good players too.

[wish12oz]

it was my understanding there was a range limit on this program.

There is no limit on the range of the program I was referring to, you simply had to be in the zone. Invis+flee hack+this program = can't be beat. And I mean seriously, if you're using using bots to claim and watch for HNMs, why would you care if you were flee hacking? If you still seriously think it was an even competition then you simply did not compete against it.
(It was actually 2 programs used together, if you ask on BG you probably know this, and I'm saying it so you can confirm I mean teh same thing.)

Ixion runs at +75-250% movement speed with addition effects of en-bind and en-gravity. Mind telling me how he was so kiteable if you cannot outrun him, elegy and slow are basically pointless (he attacks fast) and has a high proc rate on en bind/gravity? Please get back to me on this.

It's because it constantly stops to attack, then stands there and doesn't move while you run away, then stops even longer and uses spear/wrath giving plenty of time to reapply defensive buffs or cure or whatever you do. And once you get outside a certain range, it simply spams the move where it puts its head down and charges, and if you can't get away from that, I pity you. Maybe you're thinking you wouldn't have utsusemi because you have to use widescan on your subjob because you think you needed to sub rng and that made it hard for you to kite?

If they removed brew I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Infact, SE SHOULD remove brew after the pitiful performance of the pickup I joined last night (an almace that never did more than 200 chant ect.), and make the game more about skill than grinding.

I don't get this at all. I like that content is available for anyone who wants to go do it. Noobs with empyreans does not bother me at all, maybe because I'm use to seeing noobs with relics and the best gear availible. But at the end of the day it takes skill to put any item to use regardless of what it is, 200 damage chant is pretty pitiful and shows a complete lack of understanding of the game and how to make a WS set. This is all that you really need to seperate the playerbase as far as I am concerned. If people want to put in the effort to acquire something I think they should be able to, but maybe I'm just biased because I use to enjoy outparsing all the relics I came across with my mediocre average gear.

And as far as it goes, I see way less noobs with top tier gear now then I did when the game was 75 cap.

[Anewie]

There is no limit on the range of the program I was referring to, you simply had to be in the zone. Invis+flee hack+this program = can't be beat. And I mean seriously, if you're using using bots to claim and watch for HNMs, why would you care if you were flee hacking? If you still seriously think it was an even competition then you simply did not compete against it.
(It was actually 2 programs used together, if you ask on BG you probably know this, and I'm saying it so you can confirm I mean teh same thing.)



It's because it constantly stops to attack, then stands there and doesn't move while you run away, then stops even longer and uses spear/wrath giving plenty of time to reapply defensive buffs or cure or whatever you do. And once you get outside a certain range, it simply spams the move where it puts its head down and charges, and if you can't get away from that, I pity you. Maybe you're thinking you wouldn't have utsusemi because you have to use widescan on your subjob because you think you needed to sub rng and that made it hard for you to kite?



I don't get this at all. I like that content is available for anyone who wants to go do it. Noobs with empyreans does not bother me at all, maybe because I'm use to seeing noobs with relics and the best gear availible. But at the end of the day it takes skill to put any item to use regardless of what it is, 200 damage chant is pretty pitiful and shows a complete lack of understanding of the game and how to make a WS set. This is all that you really need to seperate the playerbase as far as I am concerned. If people want to put in the effort to acquire something I think they should be able to, but maybe I'm just biased because I use to enjoy outparsing all the relics I came across with my mediocre average gear.

And as far as it goes, I see way less noobs with top tier gear now then I did when the game was 75 cap.

Oh, please. Yeah Ixion goes through those AIs where he charges horn and and will tp but you clearly have never fought it. News flash, ixion does physical attacks and he does them more often and incredibly fast. Once he lands a hit on you, you will likely have ewnbind or engravity on.

Saying ixion is was one of the easiest mobs to kite makes you look stupid and you're not really saving face because that's simply not true. Ixion is not "easy to kite". Sure, hes "easy" to REPOSITION, if you need. But kiting? Try kitting or running from ixion after you claim it. News flash, you won't get very far. All your shadows will be gone from both Ni and Ichi before he does a TP move, and you can bet you'll either be bound or weighted down as well. If you disagree, you just don't know.



Get out.

[wish12oz]

Oh, please. Yeah Ixion goes through those AIs where he charges horn and and will tp but you clearly have never fought it. News flash, ixion does physical attacks and he does them more often and incredibly fast. Once he lands a hit on you, you will likely have ewnbind or engravity on.

Saying ixion is was one of the easiest mobs to kite makes you look stupid and you're not really saving face because that's simply not true. Ixion is not "easy to kite". Sure, hes "easy" to REPOSITION, if you need. But kiting? Try kitting or running from ixion after you claim it. News flash, you won't get very far. All your shadows will be gone from both Ni and Ichi before he does a TP move, and you can bet you'll either be bound or weighted down as well. If you disagree, you just don't know.

Here's a pic of me tanking it on PLD at 75.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...510_120036.png

Here's a pic of me soloing it at 90 with my 2 accounts.
http://guildwork.com/#/albums/image/...118b0a2b00116f
http://guildwork.com/#/albums/image/...118b0a2b001170

So you totally right dawg, I never fought it ever, and I never drug it half way across a zone to get it to a good spot where I can not pay attention to where my WHM is standing and what it's doing. I also never drug it half way across a zone to where the alliance was going to be either.


Maybe you should take your own advice.

Get out.

Just because it's hard for you to do something, does not mean it's hard for OTHER people to do it, it means you're bad at it.

[Anewie]

Here's a pic of me tanking it on PLD at 75.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...510_120036.png

Here's a pic of me soloing it at 90 with my 2 accounts.
http://guildwork.com/#/albums/image/...118b0a2b00116f
http://guildwork.com/#/albums/image/...118b0a2b001170

So you totally right dawg, I never fought it ever, and I never drug it half way across a zone to get it to a good spot where I can not pay attention to where my WHM is standing and what it's doing. I also never drug it half way across a zone to where the alliance was going to be either.


Maybe you should take your own advice.



Just because it's hard for you to do something, does not mean it's hard for OTHER people to do it, it means you're bad at it.

1, I dont see anything in the other two pics.

2. You said Ixion is "one of the easiest mobs to kite". I'm calling bs alert. Show me a video of pic of you kitting dark ixion for a prolonger period of time without getting bound or weighted down. I'm not saying you didn't kill it, I'm not saying he's not easy to kill.

My argument is that Dark Ixion is not "easy to kite". He's easy to reposition or pull to camp etc, but a person can't kite him long term w.o help and not die. Even if you have help, you're going to get hit and likely get debuffed. The mob bouncing hate back and forth off people once someone dies.. I dont consider that kiting. I didn't say you couldn't kite him for oh.. 15-20secs, ok, yeah. I still think you're way overexaggerating when you say hes one of the easiest mobs to kite, cause thats kinda bs.

edit: oh you were in empressshields?^^ /wave, I was on Kujata/valefor too. I'm not trying to be mean, but when I think "easy to kite", KV or Kirin comes to mind. Di? Nope.

[wish12oz]

1, I dont see anything in the other two pics.

2. You said Ixion is "one of the easiest mobs to kite". I'm calling bs alert. Show me a video of pic of you kitting dark ixion for a prolonger period of time without getting bound or weighted down. I'm not saying you didn't kill it, I'm not saying he's not easy to kill.

My argument is that Dark Ixion is not "easy to kite". He's easy to reposition or pull to camp etc, but a person can't kite him long term w.o help and not die. Even if you have help, you're going to get hit and likely get debuffed. I didn't say you couldn't kite him for oh.. 15-20secs, ok, yeah. I still think you're way overexaggerating when you say hes one of the easiest mobs to kite, cause thats kinda bs.

edit: oh you were in empressshields?^^ /wave, I was on Kujata/valefor too. I'm not trying to be mean, but when I think "easy to kite", KV or Kirin comes to mind. Di? Nope.

Kazoku LS, Quetzecoatl is the PLD SS.
At 75 I drug it half way across the zone many times, and not once was it ever difficult.
EDIT:: I take that back, I remember one time I died when I claimed it on rng/sam without any buffs and with no one else around. So I had problems once when I was unprepared and trying to beat someone else.

In that Ronfarue SS, I drug it on just my NIN, from by the zone to jugner, to the waterfall, thats like 6 blocks, and I didn't get hit once. At one point when I was fighting in Saruta another time, I actually got hit with a spear I didn't see because I gear swapped when it started the animation, and died, then kited it for 6-7 min on my WHM mule while casting raise/reapplying buffs to my NIN, then curing my NIN when weakness wore. It was stupidly easy, and I was doing much more then simply kiting.

So ya, I stand by my statement of "its one of the easiest mobs in the game to kite."
Just because it's hard for you doesn't mean it's hard for other people, you need to learn this. It doesn't make you a bad player, it just means you're not as good at something as other people. It's ok to be bad at stuff, like me, I'm terrible at keeping people besides myself alive, and I have a 90 WHM I leveled.

Also: come to my server and find DI up unclaimed and I will come kite it for you, not a big deal, but I don't have fraps or anything.

[Anewie]

Kazoku LS, Quetzecoatl is the PLD SS.
At 75 I drug it half way across the zone many times, and not once was it ever difficult.
EDIT:: I take that back, I remember one time I died when I claimed it on rng/sam without any buffs and with no one else around. So I had problems once when I was unprepared and trying to beat someone else.

In that Ronfarue SS, I drug it on just my NIN, from by the zone to jugner, to the waterfall, thats like 6 blocks, and I didn't get hit once. At one point when I was fighting in Saruta another time, I actually got hit with a spear I didn't see because I gear swapped when it started the animation, and died, then kited it for 6-7 min on my WHM mule while casting raise/reapplying buffs to my NIN, then curing my NIN when weakness wore. It was stupidly easy, and I was doing much more then simply kiting.

So ya, I stand by my statement of "its one of the easiest mobs in the game to kite."
Just because it's hard for you doesn't mean it's hard for other people, you need to learn this. It doesn't make you a bad player, it just means you're not as good at something as other people. It's ok to be bad at stuff, like me, I'm terrible at keeping people besides myself alive, and I have a 90 WHM I leveled.

Tony gonna be making a comeback someday? He was a really good player and made that LS pretty damn successful. Kaz was pretty solid LS. I was kinda bummed when I read he was quitting.

I'm not a totally stubborn betch, so I'll stand corrected. If Ixion is easy for you kite, it just means you're better than me. I'm just going off my personal experiences.

For example, when I claimed ixion id shadowbind right after and run, after it wore and tank was not there, my shadows would start dropping pretty quickly and in no time, I was bound or weighted down. I also can recall quite a few times when competition won and the claimer would die before their tank zones in. Now granted, this just means they suck if you're tank is that slow zoning in, but i'm more focused on the kiting factor. (i'm sure u remember something like this too, haha. funny stuff)

sorry for the bitchtude.

It's funny how small XI is getting. I know so many older players on here. I've gotten around, haha.

Wow.. Just checked AH, like all the drings in kaz quit? Cac been gone 9 months.. >< i guess they didn't like the abyssea stuff?;/ Meh.