Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post

btw REAL gamers take on any and all challenges, they don't QQ when they can't win, the get better.
Actually this is not always true.
Real Gamers play games they enjoy. They play Challenging contents they enjoy.
If a game is SHITTY or has SHITTY CONTENTS that people hate/dislike because of a time limitations designed to prevent majority from playing, then it doesn't matter what challenges it provides, Real gamers will hate it for what it is doing. "Preventing them from even getting access to the challenge".

Real gamers dont waste time playing games.
Real gamers enjoy their time playing games.

If the challenge is a waste of time, then the content is trash.

To me, it seems you are more of a person who wants to encourage wasting time playing a game rather than putting time enjoying a game.

The main reason why ppl did HNMs is not for the thrill, but the opportunity to be able to get the items they want or need. Instead of deluding yourself with trash, I suggest you enjoy the claim wars with the 10-15min repop NMs in abyssea since that seems to be the challenge you enjoy the most, or play another game that is purely designed for PVP.