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    Yeah, were the trolls, yet the Headlong Belt sam is, as you so eloquently defined as:
    Quote Originally Posted by Anewie View Post
    ud know they are not only very good people but good players too.
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    lol, cause you know me, you know who i am, what im all about by looking at my ffxiah profile, regardless of the fact i already told you i quit for a year and a half, but im supposed to have top notch gear the day i come back right, sorry
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    Don't worry Anwei, they're just getting overly defensive cause you are right. Idk what server yall oh but on Pandy then Asura i stomped my competition. Donno where all these super unbeatable bots you keep harpin on about are but i must of never had to deal with em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    Don't worry Anwei, they're just getting overly defensive cause you are right. Idk what server yall oh but on Pandy then Asura i stomped my competition. Donno where all these super unbeatable bots you keep harpin on about are but i must of never had to deal with em.
    I stand corrected that there does exist such a program, doesn't change the fact that actually scanners stand just a good chance at getting it as some dping.

    My point was, they didn't have an advantage over a focused person as opposed to King camping where you can stand on a mob and bot claim it. I too have beaten deathspot scanners. I think those two are just grasping at straws so throw the "they bot" excuse. Seriously, there was a reason a lot of shells and groups that didn't do generic kings but did SW/Ixion.

    Know why? because they could actually stand an equal chance if they focused.

    You cant even claim ixion w.o throwing ash at it, so my point rests. GTFO with that cheating stuff as a means to dominate wotg HNM. It rly is bs.

    My shell only ever dp scanned when there was NO competition and we didn't even go out to scan. One single person just went zone to zone to check dps. When comp came, we got on RDM/RNG NIN/RNG or RNG and put 1-2 ppl in every zone, and thats the best way to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    Alot of ppl WANT this, just bc they don't post here doesn't mean you are 100% right. And what i choose to do with my time is my choice, if i wanna camp a 21hr to 24hr or a 72hr repop HNM i should be able to, its my buisness not anyone elses.
    How about, Go to abyssea or find a pop NM outside of abyssea, have your pop item ready, and wait 21-74 hours, and pretend it is a HNM, then pop the NM with a friend outside of your party, and try to claim it before he does.
    Now leave the rest of us alone who don't want to be limited in time to engage on fighting NMs they wish when they wish.

    Majority of players dont like logging on a game to try to get a chance for an NM that other players will prevent them from trying to get. That is just plain boring. Majority want to log on, and play the game and be able to have access to challenging contents on their own time schedule, not the game's.
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    1. True Gamers plays to have fun.
    2. True Gamers don't play to waste time.
    3. True Gamers Aren't wasting time if they enjoy the contents they play while progressing.
    4. Gamers Love to see progression based on time/effort they put into challenges.
    5. Gamers plays for challenging Elements, and Wants more Enjoyable contents.
    6. Gamers don't play for Time Sink Elements, and Don't want A game to be a Chore!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sureal View Post
    lol, cause you know me, you know who i am, what im all about by looking at my ffxiah profile, regardless of the fact i already told you i quit for a year and a half, but im supposed to have top notch gear the day i come back right, sorry
    Yeah, because Swift Belt's were introduced last year...

    Quote Originally Posted by Anewie View Post
    I stand corrected that there does exist such a program
    Shows how much you know from the get go
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    Last edited by Nynja; 05-30-2011 at 11:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    Handing out good gear to bad players is wrong.
    While I generally agree with this statement, I would rather drink liquid nitrogen than camp a 21-24 hour pop nm that everyone and their grandma is trying to claim. That's not skill, its luck (or bots).

    If they removed brew I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Infact, SE SHOULD remove brew after the pitiful performance of the pickup I joined last night (an almace that never did more than 200 chant ect.), and make the game more about skill than grinding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anewie View Post
    it was my understanding there was a range limit on this program.
    There is no limit on the range of the program I was referring to, you simply had to be in the zone. Invis+flee hack+this program = can't be beat. And I mean seriously, if you're using using bots to claim and watch for HNMs, why would you care if you were flee hacking? If you still seriously think it was an even competition then you simply did not compete against it.
    (It was actually 2 programs used together, if you ask on BG you probably know this, and I'm saying it so you can confirm I mean teh same thing.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Anewie View Post
    Ixion runs at +75-250% movement speed with addition effects of en-bind and en-gravity. Mind telling me how he was so kiteable if you cannot outrun him, elegy and slow are basically pointless (he attacks fast) and has a high proc rate on en bind/gravity? Please get back to me on this.
    It's because it constantly stops to attack, then stands there and doesn't move while you run away, then stops even longer and uses spear/wrath giving plenty of time to reapply defensive buffs or cure or whatever you do. And once you get outside a certain range, it simply spams the move where it puts its head down and charges, and if you can't get away from that, I pity you. Maybe you're thinking you wouldn't have utsusemi because you have to use widescan on your subjob because you think you needed to sub rng and that made it hard for you to kite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drhatchet View Post
    If they removed brew I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Infact, SE SHOULD remove brew after the pitiful performance of the pickup I joined last night (an almace that never did more than 200 chant ect.), and make the game more about skill than grinding.
    I don't get this at all. I like that content is available for anyone who wants to go do it. Noobs with empyreans does not bother me at all, maybe because I'm use to seeing noobs with relics and the best gear availible. But at the end of the day it takes skill to put any item to use regardless of what it is, 200 damage chant is pretty pitiful and shows a complete lack of understanding of the game and how to make a WS set. This is all that you really need to seperate the playerbase as far as I am concerned. If people want to put in the effort to acquire something I think they should be able to, but maybe I'm just biased because I use to enjoy outparsing all the relics I came across with my mediocre average gear.

    And as far as it goes, I see way less noobs with top tier gear now then I did when the game was 75 cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    There is no limit on the range of the program I was referring to, you simply had to be in the zone. Invis+flee hack+this program = can't be beat. And I mean seriously, if you're using using bots to claim and watch for HNMs, why would you care if you were flee hacking? If you still seriously think it was an even competition then you simply did not compete against it.
    (It was actually 2 programs used together, if you ask on BG you probably know this, and I'm saying it so you can confirm I mean teh same thing.)



    It's because it constantly stops to attack, then stands there and doesn't move while you run away, then stops even longer and uses spear/wrath giving plenty of time to reapply defensive buffs or cure or whatever you do. And once you get outside a certain range, it simply spams the move where it puts its head down and charges, and if you can't get away from that, I pity you. Maybe you're thinking you wouldn't have utsusemi because you have to use widescan on your subjob because you think you needed to sub rng and that made it hard for you to kite?



    I don't get this at all. I like that content is available for anyone who wants to go do it. Noobs with empyreans does not bother me at all, maybe because I'm use to seeing noobs with relics and the best gear availible. But at the end of the day it takes skill to put any item to use regardless of what it is, 200 damage chant is pretty pitiful and shows a complete lack of understanding of the game and how to make a WS set. This is all that you really need to seperate the playerbase as far as I am concerned. If people want to put in the effort to acquire something I think they should be able to, but maybe I'm just biased because I use to enjoy outparsing all the relics I came across with my mediocre average gear.

    And as far as it goes, I see way less noobs with top tier gear now then I did when the game was 75 cap.
    Oh, please. Yeah Ixion goes through those AIs where he charges horn and and will tp but you clearly have never fought it. News flash, ixion does physical attacks and he does them more often and incredibly fast. Once he lands a hit on you, you will likely have ewnbind or engravity on.

    Saying ixion is was one of the easiest mobs to kite makes you look stupid and you're not really saving face because that's simply not true. Ixion is not "easy to kite". Sure, hes "easy" to REPOSITION, if you need. But kiting? Try kitting or running from ixion after you claim it. News flash, you won't get very far. All your shadows will be gone from both Ni and Ichi before he does a TP move, and you can bet you'll either be bound or weighted down as well. If you disagree, you just don't know.



    Get out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anewie View Post
    Oh, please. Yeah Ixion goes through those AIs where he charges horn and and will tp but you clearly have never fought it. News flash, ixion does physical attacks and he does them more often and incredibly fast. Once he lands a hit on you, you will likely have ewnbind or engravity on.

    Saying ixion is was one of the easiest mobs to kite makes you look stupid and you're not really saving face because that's simply not true. Ixion is not "easy to kite". Sure, hes "easy" to REPOSITION, if you need. But kiting? Try kitting or running from ixion after you claim it. News flash, you won't get very far. All your shadows will be gone from both Ni and Ichi before he does a TP move, and you can bet you'll either be bound or weighted down as well. If you disagree, you just don't know.
    Here's a pic of me tanking it on PLD at 75.
    http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...510_120036.png

    Here's a pic of me soloing it at 90 with my 2 accounts.
    http://guildwork.com/#/albums/image/...118b0a2b00116f
    http://guildwork.com/#/albums/image/...118b0a2b001170

    So you totally right dawg, I never fought it ever, and I never drug it half way across a zone to get it to a good spot where I can not pay attention to where my WHM is standing and what it's doing. I also never drug it half way across a zone to where the alliance was going to be either.


    Maybe you should take your own advice.

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    Get out.
    Just because it's hard for you to do something, does not mean it's hard for OTHER people to do it, it means you're bad at it.
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    Last edited by wish12oz; 05-31-2011 at 12:30 AM.

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