World spawning HNM

[Eth]

What it comes down to is this - Naten and many players like him enjoy c*ckblocking others.

I'm not judging. I have known and enjoyed this particular thrill myself - when on the winning side. On the losing side, not so much, naturally.

In the end, this is a philosophical question that has to be decided by SE- it's about what kind of game SE wants FFXI to be. Personally, I always felt that it was somewhat of an anomaly that a game that's designed around cooperative behavior in exping and missions would become so ultra-competitive at the end. But, it's SE's call in the end.

[Degenxerate]

I didnt read most of this thread because its pretty long and i'm pretty lazy. I'm just wondering why we cant have both? Why not leave king as World Spawns AND make them pop nm's? That way campers could get their rush and casuals could save up the seals/buy pop items and pop them. Has this ever been discussed? I mean looks at things like Adam/Aspi. That set of mobs may as well not even be in the game any more aside from maybe the random monk here or there that wants a black belt. If it was still a world spawn it would be almost guaranteed people would be doing that content. Is that really that bad of a thing to be able to do these as initially intended and many of us grew up on as well as having the option to fight them the new way? Anyways if this has already been discussed i'll show myself the out.

[Natenn]

I can outclaim bots with PS2, stop being mad and bashing HNMs they were the greatest part of the game. What are you gonna do when they come back? Come here and complain more? And stop bringing up kings they were stupid, SE not gonna make any more HNM with a 30x30 yalm pop area so cheaters can cluster 18 bots on top of pop spot to claim it, any more HNM will be like SW/DI with the same if not longer windows.

And who are you to say selling drops was bad? People still do it in abyssea are the bad? The people who farm gil off various non HNM things what about them? You saying anybody who wants gil is greedy and bad? GMs don't think so.

In my opinion and by checking out your profile on AH it is my opinion that you have no idea what you are saying, i think you just hate on the idea of HNM so you can obtain stuff faster. And since you think everyone bots then by your reasoning, everyone is on an equal playing field so why persist in the complaints? If i wanted everyone to be equal id go to a diff mmo

[Sureal]

selling drops IS bad, this is a game, not a job, and by selling drops you are thereby forcing people to farm nonstop or craft nonstop to make w/e amount of gil you want to charge to obtain an item they could most likely get themselves if they werent being cockblocked by someone who either a. wants to keep others from progressing (god forbid someone needs a title from an hnm to lets say, get an atma, or progress on a quest) or b. would rather farm hnm's to make the same amount of gil in a very short time and sit there and do nothing 99% of the time

and yes, i do like obtaining stuff faster, i mean good god man, the way the game used to be was just dumb, taking 5 years to get valor surcoat just because my ls had terrible luck in getting it to drop, what am i thinking, that was an incredible system

and would you get off the "youre just mad" kick, i am not mad, as i have said over and over and over and over.....


and over and over, and once again, IM NOT MAD, im more than happy with how the game has changed


and in case you didnt know, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, though not everyone shows it to the world, i dont care what you think about me, you obviously think you are better than me which is fine, you can think whatever you want, keep digging up personal attacks at me, keep e-stalking me, in fact, heres my facebook www.facebook.com/surealistic
heres my personal email, coryreed@gmail.com
i also have google plus but do not know the link to it off the top of my head, im also known, of course, as surealistic on bg forums, and im actually a part of the ls ingame (so by your reasoning, we all must be idiots and have no idea what we are talking about)

and once more, lol@beating bots on ps2

[Natenn]

E stalking? all i did was player search on AH to compare achievements, Just about every LS on any sever sells stuff from abysea and other stuff, you might as well say its bad to sell BCNM drops. And wow calm down. If you're not mad whats with anger?

HNMs should be rare and hard, not popped 100x daily and ppl be able to crutch on atma or staggers.

[Sureal]

so we are back at the "hnms are hard" now huh

blah blah AV (you havent killed according to your own words)
blah blah PW (you already killed it, dont want to go back)
blah blah titles, blah blah

[Natenn]

i would go back to those BUT, most ppl quit and whats left is pretty lazy since the good stuff is easy to get now. But yea thats a good way for me to put it, right now how things are, it promotes ppl to be lazy since the game is on easy mode.

[user201108211515]

"no, you see we tried to have an intelligent conversation, natenn wont have any of it, so its boiled down to this"

Its not that he wont.. he just cant.. talkn to this guy is a waste of time..

Even after the bot LS that was preventing his lil LS from claiming dies, he is still angry.

And I didnt even get a thanks for tearing it apart.

So ungratefull.

But no they never claim aginst bots. He only got dring after the bots gave up on HNM. So now he gets to pretend to be good. Lots of people playn pretend on asura.

[Sureal]

ohhh whats this? someone with firsthand experience of natenn and his OMGWTFBBQPS2BOTKILLINGSKILLS, oh do tell


and btw, i do seem to remember that one of your main arguments was, and i quote "too many noobs running around with gear from hnm's", but wait, you sell drops from these hnm's to anyone and everyone, so that means you are ok with "noob" running around with elite gear, as long as they pay for it, so what is it now natenn, give me/us a new reason to tell you why this is a horrible idea

[user201108211515]

He isnt PS2 either. The one time I saw them claim KB. No competition claim btw. I stood infront of him many times to see if he gets hung up but he is able to run right through people as if they are not there. I am ps2 so I duno the name of the 3rd pt program that allows people to do that but he has it for sure.

When ever ya see screen shots from those guys ya can see PT TP and such.

Beyond that.. not much to really say about them other then they just elite aby noobs. They pat them selves on the back for finishing emp weapons with 15 people. I about LOLd to death when they almost wiped to sobek with the ochain pld. As a group I'm sure they get alot done but solo/duo.. they couldnt do much.

The real souce of his anger stems from his bot being of lesser quailty compaired to the guys that were using arenz or w/e.

And look where that shell is now.. Shouting for help on sobek, what a joke.

Ya think nateen would be estatic about it but he is as angry as ever.