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    Player Arlan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post

    btw REAL gamers take on any and all challenges, they don't QQ when they can't win, the get better.
    Actually this is not always true.
    Real Gamers play games they enjoy. They play Challenging contents they enjoy.
    If a game is SHITTY or has SHITTY CONTENTS that people hate/dislike because of a time limitations designed to prevent majority from playing, then it doesn't matter what challenges it provides, Real gamers will hate it for what it is doing. "Preventing them from even getting access to the challenge".

    Real gamers dont waste time playing games.
    Real gamers enjoy their time playing games.

    If the challenge is a waste of time, then the content is trash.

    To me, it seems you are more of a person who wants to encourage wasting time playing a game rather than putting time enjoying a game.

    The main reason why ppl did HNMs is not for the thrill, but the opportunity to be able to get the items they want or need. Instead of deluding yourself with trash, I suggest you enjoy the claim wars with the 10-15min repop NMs in abyssea since that seems to be the challenge you enjoy the most, or play another game that is purely designed for PVP.
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    1. True Gamers plays to have fun.
    2. True Gamers don't play to waste time.
    3. True Gamers Aren't wasting time if they enjoy the contents they play while progressing.
    4. Gamers Love to see progression based on time/effort they put into challenges.
    5. Gamers plays for challenging Elements, and Wants more Enjoyable contents.
    6. Gamers don't play for Time Sink Elements, and Don't want A game to be a Chore!
    All Gamers Unite!

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    god natenn, you are either the troll of the century, or just the most incredibly dense individual to ever walk the earth, i cant tell yet, but i have a feeling its a little of both
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    In a world of milk and honey, there is no cake

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    I'm surprised you havent said that overall subscribers are down compared to 2005 and said its because they made world spawns less relevant...
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    why would i wanna waste my time on NM that pops 96x a day? It hasn't the value i seek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    why would i wanna waste my time on NM that pops 96x a day? It hasn't the value i seek.
    You'd have to try REALLY hard to waste time on an NM that pops ninety-six times per day.

    Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    why would i wanna waste my time on NM that pops 96x a day? It hasn't the value i seek.
    Are you that dumb?
    Just because it pops like 96x a day doesn't make it not valuable.
    NMs that pop like that in abyssea, drops really valuable things to upgrade AF3s, atmas, and other nice accessories that helps build up your character.

    Also, the "CHALLENGE" you want is to compete with other players in claiming NMs, well there you can do that AS MUCH AS YOU WANT ~ because it pops 96x a day.

    If you don't think abyssea NMs drop valuable things, DONT GET THEM and STAY GIMPED.
    We'll just have better gear than you will and be able to play better as we progress.

    What you are asking for "HNMs that repop 24-74hours" is a TRUE Waste of time!"
    You now have access to "CLAiM WAR" with people on NMs that repop every 10-15min without Actually "Wasting time".

    Don't Confuse "Time sink Elements" with "Challenge Elements".
    Both are completely different things.

    Asking for 24-74hours for HNM to repop in game for rare items are Time Sink elements, Not challenges. And it is the worst Kind of time sink out there since Not everyone will have the RL time to participate to work on getting their items. Not everyone can log on game anytime they want for One chance at claiming and One chance at killing such thing.

    IT is NOT Worth the value to camp 24-74hour HNM since its a video game and having to play around a Game's schedule for a piece of data is idiotic unless you got no life and can play video games 24/7 and have Nothing better to do but waste time.

    Sureal is right about you.
    You just want to get items that very few people have the time to get so you can show it off on others to feel "Special".
    Well I'm glad SE is taking a new direction on this cause I'm tiered of your kind ruining the game.
    Give all Gamers equal access to enjoy contents and enjoy challenges!
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    1. True Gamers plays to have fun.
    2. True Gamers don't play to waste time.
    3. True Gamers Aren't wasting time if they enjoy the contents they play while progressing.
    4. Gamers Love to see progression based on time/effort they put into challenges.
    5. Gamers plays for challenging Elements, and Wants more Enjoyable contents.
    6. Gamers don't play for Time Sink Elements, and Don't want A game to be a Chore!
    All Gamers Unite!

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    Player Sureal's Avatar
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    hed rather waste time by sitting in one spot doing nothing for 3 hours, then moving to another spot and sit there to do nothing for 3 hours, and so on and so on and so on
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    Real gamers they dont see claiming a HNM as content. You may not had used a bot but thier most likly was one in your LS. Ground HNM ls was the biggest scam in the game next to dyna only LSs.If every single one of the people that enjoyed camping HNM quit the game we wouldn't loss anything of value.For every 1 player that like it there was 100 that wouldn't go near HNM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenmore View Post
    Real gamers they dont see claiming a HNM as content. You may not had used a bot but thier most likly was one in your LS. Ground HNM ls was the biggest scam in the game next to dyna only LSs.If every single one of the people that enjoyed camping HNM quit the game we wouldn't loss anything of value.For every 1 player that like it there was 100 that wouldn't go near HNM.
    Finally. A statement I can completely agree with. Thank you Ravenmore. I like that I might now have a real chance to go play with Faf/Nidhogg/Behemoth/Turtle etc without having to sign over my real life to do so to some scambag HNMls.
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    Proud to be "Old School" and to have completed CoP pre-nerf

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    Abyssea is'nt real endgame. Endgame is supposed to be hard, nothing is hard in abyssea, even if there was no brew it can all be done quite easily if you prepare. Nothing in this game right now poses any real difficulty. The only things that were ever real endgame was Lv75 cap AV/PW and claiming HNM, Bar AV i killed claimed everything even Vrtra w/o cheap zerg method or 40 bodys to toss at it. Those things were fun for me, just like w/e it is you do now you think its the greatest thing ever. Thats fine i don't really care to much what others want added/think is fun its your opinion. Im not asking devs to make it so it HAS to be camped but i at least want it so it will be camped. Einherjar deal didn't bug me i still did both and seen ppl who quit HNM get stuff and seen ppl wipe repeatedly to T1 wing.
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