World spawning HNM

[Arlan]

As for Arlans sig, ok ill agree with 1-5 but 6 no. If 6 were true then everyone would have what they wanted and whats to keep you playing after you obtain all? Nothing.

It doesn't matter what Style of game your into,
If you are a gamer, you log on the game to play to have fun.
The true reason a gamer would play games is to have fun, Not to have ANOTHER CHORE.

Time sink elements are made to prevent players from progressing so SE can keep people going for the same things over and over again so We keep paying the monthly fee.

Gamers play the game for the challenge, The challenge is what is fun about games, not the time sink elements.

For example: You enjoy the challenge of Claiming against other players, but majority dont play this game for that kind of challenge, they play it to play with people to take down the HNM or the NM in general as the real challenge of obtaining gear. But the Time Consuming or TIME SINK element such as "24hour-74hour Repop" is what #6 refers to as an example of such things a gamer doesn't want.

You can still have that same challenge of claiming against other players by going to abyssea and claiming Timed NMs there that repop every 10-15min. The difference is, The time sink is less because it repops every 10-15min NOT 24-75hours, BUT... The Challenge is still there and the same. So just go have fun if that is all you want man cause its already there in abyssea. But asking for HUGE time sink element just takes the fun out of it for players who want to gain access to contents they want to participate as well.

Also, #6 is true because not only what I mentioned above, but the point is everyone would eventually get all the things they want done while SE continues to make More and More content. It is an MMORPG meaning SE can continue adding more contents, better gear, and different battle systems. What keeps players in the game is friends and progression.

I never stayed in FFXI back in the days because of Old Dynamis system or HNM system. Heck no.
I stayed cause I had friends I could play with and I had contents I still enjoyed, and I like teaching new players about this game since I knew a lot about it from years of experience.

What keeps Majority of players playing is progression and SE adding new contents to continue to move forward with friends and LS mates. You can never get everything done in an MMO since an MMO is an Incomplete game and can never be completed since that is the way it is designed to be.

=) There will always be new things to experience for every new update. /cheer

[Natenn]

pressure from what? Im trying to figure out to explain this so that you can comprehend the need for a real endgame, cause everything you preach up is not difficult at all.

[Sureal]

and neither is anything you preach up

[Natenn]

Well then, what do you suggest? Don't see an ideas comming from anyone else.

[Arlan]

SE makes money off the majority.
They make money off pleasing the majority of their customers by giving the majority the access for enjoyable contents.
Some contents are not enjoyable but some are.

It is SE's job to please us on the product we pay for.
It is our Hobbie to play the game that we pay for, Not our Job.

[Sureal]

im not suggesting anything, seeings as im not a game developer nor do i work at SE, i will take the game as they have made it and enjoy it, when they had free spawning world hnm's, i didnt particularly enjoy it, but i did it as that was necessary, and since they have gotten away from that and started changing the game towards a more community friendly and time efficient style, i will take it and run, i love it the way it is now, people are generally more helpful and nice to each other, i can log on and actually get stuff done in a short period of time, i dont have to wake up at 3am just to sit and camp fafnir again, i play on my schedule and i like that

the whole reason im here is to make sure they DONT change back

[Natenn]

There would be so many reactivated accounts if HNM came back, like i said b4 SE is a company, like all companys their aim is to make $$$ am i wrong? Bringing back HNM will bring more paying customers. So by your logic i am correct.

[Sureal]

where are all these players you talk about, i dont know of a single person that would come back just to sit in DA again

[Natenn]

sigh, ill go see what they're up to.

[Natenn]

looks like they went to lolWoW.